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New Wave/Punk music, culture, genres, memories. '80s revivalism and other relevant topics.

Can't we all just get along?

Postby pikeprof » Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:21 am

To me, it's both entertaining and somewhat disheartening to have all of these arguments.

Let's really face it: "New Wave" was invented by Stein at Sire Records to market music and come up with something more respectable than punk.

New Wave as a a genre, if you can call it that-really only ran from ca. 1977-1982, when I was working in college radio , no one was really using that phrase from 1983 on.

It's a slippery category at best-How are the Talking Heads and Ramones similar at all?

It's kind of like garage rock:- some garage-o-philes will only listen to music that was pressed on 45s in Muscatine, Iowa and totally ignore Paul Revere and The Raiders and Tommy James, who for MY money rocked as hard as some as those obscuro-mondo bands. This is for people who consider The Remains too mainstream for them to bother with( for the uninitiated-the Remains were a somewhat successfull Eas Coast Band, who toured with the Beatles on the Fabs last American tour, but could never get into the national charts.

At best, one can say it was commericially viable music that embraced some of the early punk ethos.

To me-"New Wave" (as slippery a concept) was the music I got into that was slightly off the beaten track when I was a young man growing up in Central Wisconsin in the late 1970s and early 1980s. When I got into college radio, I found that the bands I liked were echoing stuff that was done about 20 years prior.

It's kind of like this whole "lost bands" thing-who can say?

Let's have the discussions-but let's remember it's the music that brings us back here.


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Postby ekahob » Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:49 am

I actually find the arguments entertaining and often educational. Let's face it, people who like this kind of music tend to be rebellious, arrogant and snobbish, and when it comes to the music, passionate know-it-alls (my self included.) Besides, how ca
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Postby pikeprof » Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:03 am

Oh Good Gravy, I wasn't suggesting we stop having our little discussions-not at all-I just suggest we all realize how slippery these concepts are and that we remember why we all are here. As I once stated, I don't listen and didn't listen to a lot of the
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Postby phillyidol » Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:03 am

We argue because we love. Just kidding, but if you go to any board you will have the same thing. It is where people voice their differences. Go to a parenting board and the people want to kill each other for what they say. We are on this board because we
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Postby ekahob » Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:51 am

I wasn't suggesting we stop having heated discussions. I was just saying that I find it entertaining when things get a little uncivil.

Phillyidol - as a parent of a 2 year old I confess to having spent a little time on those parent message boards.
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Postby Spaz » Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:26 pm

New Wave.


I know it all!

I am the king of new wave!

I invented new wave!

My NAME is new wave!

I am the Lord of all that is New Wave!

I have "new" and "wave" tatooed on my butt cheeks!

I put the NEW into WAVE.

I am th
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Postby EchoBeachBunnyBoy » Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:43 pm

A group of people see the same car accident. Almost everyone will see the events leading up to & the end result differently. Who started it? Who's right & who's wrong? You will have many opinions responding to the same question. What you claim to be fact,
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Postby Jimbo » Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:48 pm

I have to admit that I find some of the posts about what is New Wave and what is not, are pretty darn funny.
I don't hold any malice towards anyone that things the Almond Brothers were proto New Wave either. [;)]

Pikeprof, I still owe you an e-mail. [
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Postby phillyidol » Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:41 am

[quote]Originally posted by ekahob
[br]I wasn't suggesting we stop having heated discussions. I was just saying that I find it ente
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Postby Otters Walk Among Us » Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:53 pm

I'll say that I tend to avoid those discussions because, for me at least, I just get annoyed. I think it was working in a record store in the early 90's with too many pick-a-genre-elitists that soured it for me. They'd scowl at kids who came in and bou
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Postby christsmasher » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:36 am

Argument? Was there an argument here and I missed it!!!?? lol

I'm just a newbie here (christsmasher, nice to meet y'all and no I don't hate Jesus it's just a name), but I truly enjoy the discussion and info.

But, if you want bad attitudes and fight
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