Bump: Why the God Bashing?

[Quite Life]

The first person I’ll respond to will be Egg-Roger. Bible believing reformed Christianity is not about being self-righteous as you claim, but just the opposite. In Christianity you deny you own righteousness because it is filthy rags (Is. 64:6) and believe me if I were to go to God with my own righteousness I would go to hell quicker than you. True bible believing reformed Christianity is receiving someone else’s righteousness i.e. the righteousness of Jesus Christ’s given to the believer’s account by the simple act of trusting in Jesus and NOT by works. Now Egg-Roger I will turn the tables on you. You are a Mormon right? And Mormonism teaches that your works and righteousness determine your status of just or unjust before God. Since you are a Mormon you have pledge an oath or better yet covenanted with a religion that requires you to stand on your own righteousness before God! So then who is the self-righteous one?



Brock just because I don’t answer everyone does not mean it is a loss. There are some people who just don’t listen and don’t care about the truth remember unbelievers suppress the truth in unrighteousness (Romans 1:18). With this in mind you have to have discretion on whom you should answer (Proverbs 26:4-5).


Sincerely,
QL

[stella]

I don't believe in the god of the Old Testament. He/it is vengeful mean and full of nasty little tricks. He sets people up and punishes them with eternal damnation. He rules by fear, kills billions because they piss him off. Jews are his chosen people and they can have him. It might even be the devil. More likely he's a man made construct of control.

I reject the idea that Jesus was the son of such a saddest. Clearly he was a remarkable man maybe even the son of the real god, who knows? I do think that the teachings accredited to him are at least in part about how to achieve heaven on earth through compassion and love.

I have nothing against believers unless they try to push their beliefs on me. Instead I try to respect every foot on the path.

[WolverineSyr]

[quote][i]Originally posted by XXX[/i]
There are "theories" which have quite some proof, including evolution. There are also "laws" in science. The vernacular definitions of those words are not the same. Scientists can put faith in a hypothesis, which is just a guess. A theory is fairly solid and comes from real life observations of many people over time. In the end, you cannot equate someone knowing scientific evidence over something which others can only guess at and cannot prove at all.
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Thank you so much for saying this.
A "theory" is a widely accepted explaination for for something which is supported by a large body of evidence by many people over time.

I get very irritated when I hear someone say "It's only a Theory." (which no one has said here yet.)As if that has no weight or doesn't deserve serious consideration. It carries far more weight than a "vauge idea," or that someone tried to explain a complex issue by pulling ideas out of their ass.

There are an astounding number of things that prove evolution has happened and is happening constantly. I'm not sure how many you may find in the archeology department, but the paleontology department will have more than enough.

If that doesn't work for you, try looking at pesticide resistant insects, or antibiotic resistant bacteria. That's evolution.

Like any natural phenomena, the "theory" of evolution is also evolving. It's changed and has been modified before & will be again.

I believe in science, and I put a lot of stock in that. I also believe in God. It's not so hard for me to reconcile those seemingly dissimilar views.

[eight6]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Quite Life[/i]


There are some people who just don’t listen and don’t care about the truth remember unbelievers suppress the truth in unrighteousness (Romans 1:18).
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The only thing I'm suppressing is the uncontrollable urge to bust out laughing...what a load of shit. Anytime somebody poses a question that your "faith" can't answer, you pump out one of these bullshit taglines.

Again, sanctimonious ass.

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[phillyidol]

Very well put Stella...Golf clap![:D] I agree.

Btw, I wouldn't mess with the Mormons anymore people. There are not all barn raising cow milkers. They will hunt you down like scientologists and open up a can of woop ass.

Honestly, I could care less if a person worships anything. Just don't push it on me.

[Quite Life]

Stella you are mistaken God in the Old Testament is the same God in the New Testament. In fact God is more vengeful in the New than the Old. If you’re familiar with the Psalms you will notice phrases like “how long o’ Lord until you take vengeance for us” indicates that God in the O.T. is slow to anger and slow in taking justice. If you read the O.T you discover that God is not so much “Quid Pro Quo” in regards to dealing out swift justice. God is slow in regards so that his people can repent. In fact you don’t really see hard core bloody justice until you get to the New Testament. There God’s wrath is in full display on the cross directed at his son Jesus Christ (who is also God we are a Trinitarian faith) so that those who are God’s people by God’s grace will not receive the due penalty or force of God’s Wrath that in reality we all deserve hence Jesus died (took the wrath of God) for us believers. That is the gospel, save by God from the wrath of God. Amen!

Cheers,
JR

[Frau_Blucher]

[quote][i]Originally posted by WolverineSyr[/i]
<br>If that doesn't work for you, try looking at pesticide resistant insects, or antibiotic resistant bacteria. That's evolution.
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Your former colleague Eric Lander would be proud! [8D] He, as head of the Broad Institute, just published the Chimp genome sequence and associated article in last month's Nature journal.

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/200 ... chimp.html

One of the interesting things is his prediction of how many and what type of single nucleotide polymorphism mutations should be in the Chimp genome given what we think we know of evolutionary rates and patterns. The "theories" were dead-on with the newly-sequenced hard evidence - subtle but powerful support for evolution. Nevertheless, Eric, as well as myself, apparently you and many others, also believe in God and can reconcile science and spirituality as not mutually distinct things.

Furthermore, I thought another recent Lander comment about another topic was even more enlightening. It was about the Dalai Lama's response to a question put to him by a scientist who asked about the ethics of using animal tissue or animals in scientific research.

"It would have been so simple for the Dalai Lama to say, 'That is wrong.' But he didn't. Instead he said, 'I can't tell you whether you should or should not do it. There's clearly mixed karma that will arise and will develop 50 years from now,'" said Lander. "He said the karma will depend on the results of the act and the motivation of the researcher. You must ask yourself: What are my motivations? What are the outcomes?'"

"If most of the polarized debates in society could be examined in that way, it would be great. It's interesting that the Dalai Lama would ask, 'What's in your heart?' and include that in the calculus," Lander said.

I'd love to see more of this balanced thoughtfulness rather than the dipshit fundamentalist demagogues polluting Chrisitanity, Islam and many other religions.

[beatschool]

Quite Life, you aren't one of those guys that protest at military funerals, are you? Your self-righteousness mimics theirs.

[phillyidol]

Dito! (I just wanted to look smart)[:D]

[hutter]

Here's what awaits you heathens in the Underworld...

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Repent NOW!!!

[Quite Life]

[quote][i]Originally posted by beatschool[/i]
<br>Quite Life, you aren't one of those guys that protest at military funerals, are you? Your self-righteousness mimics theirs.
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No way that is sooo cheeeezeee and wrong. Only Liberals do that. I am socially conservitive.[:)]

BTW Beatschool I will be joining my church this Saturday as we go and pass out bible tracks and witness the gospel to the homosexuals at the gay pride parade in San Francisco. We will share with them the good news of Jesus and the gospel and that by God's grace homosexuals can be free from the terrible bondage of homosexual sin. Afterward we'll go back to Berkeley to Triple Rock and kick down a couple beers.



I am such a Bull in a China shop[:D]

[plagiarism]

[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
<br>Here's what awaits you heathens in the Underworld...
Repent NOW!!!
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How's that different than the local "Magic" soft hits radio station here on planet Earth?

[hutter]

[quote][i]Originally posted by plagiarism[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
<br>Here's what awaits you heathens in the Underworld...
Repent NOW!!!
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How's that different than the local "Magic" soft hits radio station here on planet Earth?
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Waitaminute...maybe we ARE in Hell!

[Klaus Von Konrad]

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[hexicon]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Quite Life[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by beatschool[/i]
<br>Quite Life, you aren't one of those guys that protest at military funerals, are you? Your self-righteousness mimics theirs.
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No way that is sooo cheeeezeee and wrong. Only Liberals do that. I am socially conservitive.[:)]
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There may well be more than one group that organizes protests at military funerals, but the best-known group is indeed "conservitive" and apparently in line with QuiteLife's views.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00409.html

"At the White House, Bush signed the Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act," passed by Congress largely in response to the activities of a Kansas church group that has staged protests at military funerals around the country, claiming the deaths symbolized God's anger at U.S. tolerance of homosexuals."