*REQ* Luther Vandross

[Frau_Blucher]

[quote][i]Originally posted by SwampThing[/i]
<br>is enforced as about as well as US immigration policy.
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HAHAHAHAHA! But what exactly IS there to enforce in those statements? The language is about as benign as the French request for the Nazi's not to invade. How about "DON'T request or post songs easily found on CD. This WILL annoy the board and furthermore get deleted. Find a fooking P2P network instead so we don't all go down the shitter like Torchomatic and other former good New Wave sites."

No disrepect intended Miguel...I'm just getting punchy. I'm done.

[eight6]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by SwampThing[/i]
<br>is enforced as about as well as US immigration policy.
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HAHAHAHAHA! But what exactly IS there to enforce in those statements? The language is about as benign as the French request for the Nazi's not to invade. How about "DON'T request or post songs easily found on CD. This WILL annoy the board and furthermore get deleted. Find a fooking P2P network instead so we don't all go down the shitter like Torchomatic and other former good New Wave sites."

No disrepect intended Miguel...I'm just getting punchy. I'm done.
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Great lines in both of the last posts...and truth as well.

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[SwampThing]

[quote]But what exactly IS there to enforce in those statements?[/quote] Good point. The language isn't strong enough. I guess people will just abuse (or ignore) the "Try to avoid" part.

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[2Nu]

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br> Don't get it wrong, my disappointment isn't with those who ask for these songs (they are usually either newbies or hammered), it's with the site moderators who should step in to remove the requests when they are out of line with the stated essence of the board. If they won't do that, then perhaps they should redefine the point of the board to more accurately reflect all the incoming requests.
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To eight6 and others

Given the ongoing and renewed debates (both here and elsewhere) regarding what constitutes 'relevant' NWO musical content/preferences, freedom to express divergent views, 'netiquette' and the like, there have been a number of call outs to the mods to respond, intervene intercede..what have you.

However, when we do just that, we are subsequently criticized for not going far enough or going too far.

Listen folks, we are NWO members too, each with their own particular personalities, views, opinions and ideosyncracies (for better or for worse).

As individuals and as fellow mods, we have to continually weigh the pros and cons of EVERYTHING that is posted on the boards.

It is and has been (for the most part) a thankless undertaking and we suck it up daily to deal with that.

It just seems the recent discussions calling attention to the aforementioned issues are more often than not, ones that polarize people on either side of that particular issue leaving no room for concensus or a 'happy middle ground'. So what is one to do?

As for 'redefining the point of the board', that is up for Mike P. to decide, not the Mods.

The best we could do (right now) with regard to the aforementioned was getting the polling feature enabled here and in the other forums so as to afford the membership an opportunity to vote on this and other issues.





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[Frau_Blucher]

[quote][i]Originally posted by 2Nu[/i]
<br>However, when we do just that, we are subsequently criticized for not going far enough or going too far.
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Dammit, I said I was done but apparently am not (surprise, surprise).

Rich, that is the one dead-on statement you've made. It is a thankless, shitty task. It's "you better not dare censor anything" on the one hand versus "you're worthless and weak" on the other. I say you ban Eight6...all problems solved!

[SwampThing]

[quote]As for 'redefining the point of the board', that is up for Mike P. to decide, not the Mods.

The best we could do (right now) with regard to the aforementioned was getting the polling feature enabled here and in the other forums so as to afford the membership an opportunity to vote on this and other issues.[/quote] Good idea. Let's not forget that Mike has been very responsive too polls and suggestions.

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[Frank_Chickens]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
HAHAHAHAHA! But what exactly IS there to enforce in those statements? The language is about as benign as the French request for the Nazi's not to invade. How about "DON'T request or post songs easily found on CD. This WILL annoy the board and furthermore get deleted. Find a fooking P2P network instead so we don't all go down the shitter like Torchomatic and other former good New Wave sites."
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Great last sentence, hit the nail RIGHT on the head.


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[eight6]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by 2Nu[/i]
<br>However, when we do just that, we are subsequently criticized for not going far enough or going too far.
[/quote]
Dammit, I said I was done but apparently am not (surprise, surprise).

Rich, that is the one dead-on statement you've made. It is a thankless, shitty task. It's "you better not dare censor anything" on the one hand versus "you're worthless and weak" on the other. I say you ban Eight6...all problems solved!
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I could always come back as eight7.

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[DODi]

I'm going to clear this up. Pete Burns of Dead or Alive fame (new wave) recently said in his book that he based parts of 'You Spin Me' on this Luther Vandross track. So I wanted it hunting down to hear it and I can now see the similarity.

To those that helped me, I thank you.

.goodtimescometomenow.

[fortyfives]

But... There's always the fact that non new wave requests could get totally out of hand. I mean, this is the New Wave Outpost, and this forum was set up for requests of obscure New Wave tracks (and it's cousins Power Pop and Punk). I don't mean to be disprespectful or put anyone down, but there are those of us who don't want to see this forum littered with requests for Donna Summer , Mantovani , Travis Tritt or whatever else. I'm a big fan of 60's garage and Psych , but I wouldn't think of requesting Giant Crab or Strawberry Alarm Clock tracks here.

[SomebodySomewhere]

[quote][i]Originally posted by 6400[/i]
<br>Generally the only way to find this material is to a. go to a specialty shop and fear being hit on by some homo vinyl collector in his back room[/quote]

I wouldn't worry about it. We homo vinyl collectors are too busy hitting the poppers to hit on you.

Oh, say, does anyone have an mp3 of Dan Hill's "Sometimes When We Touch?" It's my favoritest new wave song of all time and I can't find it anywhere!

[6400]

[quote][i]Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by 6400[/i]
<br>Generally the only way to find this material is to a. go to a specialty shop and fear being hit on by some homo vinyl collector in his back room[/quote]

I wouldn't worry about it. We homo vinyl collectors are too busy hitting the poppers to hit on you.

Oh, say, does anyone have an mp3 of Dan Hill's "Sometimes When We Touch?" It's my favoritest new wave song of all time and I can't find it anywhere!
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homo [:D]
sorry..meant shop owner..whatever

[Panorama]

[quote][i]Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere[/i]
Oh, say, does anyone have an mp3 of Dan Hill's "Sometimes When We Touch?" It's my favoritest new wave song of all time and I can't find it anywhere!
[/quote] I think all that can be said is "The honesty's too much And I have to close my eyes and hide." [:D]
Please stop. Of course I know you are kidding.

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[MikeP]

Okay, it sounds like people are anxiously waiting for me to pull the trigger on the subject of requesting non-New Wave or tracks easily found on your budget "Awesome 80's" CD at Best Buy. From here on out, I would like to enforce this more rigidly and I will change the description of this forum to reflect that, since it has turned into a free-for-all in the past year. Obviously, keeping an eye on this board isn't my day job, which is why I have the moderators to help me out. We are going to be more diligent and topics will be locked that we feel are unnecessarily pandering to the lowest common denominator and straying from the original intent of this section.

BTW, the Luther Vandross request isn't completely out of hand if:
1) The song isn't easily found on one of his Greatest Hits CDs.
2) There's a method to the madness -- i.e., the Dead or Alive tie-in in this case

That being said, let's try to keep the hair bands, cartoon themes and soul glow to a minimum okay? There's a fair amount of stuff with cross-over appeal and that's fine, but the 'playlists' coming out of this section lately have been beyond bizarre at times.

[fuclosure]

right then, so it's business as usual....[:o)]

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