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by **Rubellan** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:06 pm

Always thought The Clash were/are way overrated. I think the same of The Jam, though I love the Sound Affects album and a few choice singles.

by **ExRat** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:07 pm

You're right. I am just unable to choose one as a better band. This is just WAY too difficult!

by **newwavepopman** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:30 pm

Hello Rubbett:
The reason why I am not too crazy about Combat Rock and only think that it is an average album at best,even though I do like the hits alot,is because They started going in a direction that I didn't like,which was in a more commercial direction.Usually once a band does that,I find that it automatically kills all the potential that they once had.Also when you compare Combat Rock to the first 3 Clash albums,there really is no comparison to just how better those first 3 albums were.

They were much tighter,the songs were definately much stronger by far.I just wouldn't match Combat Rock to those first few Clash albums,for these reasons alone.Plus,I like the fact that the first few Clash albums were in a much more Punkier mode.

by **skinnytie** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:18 am

The Clash were starting to go commerical with Combat Rock? I beg to differ, but the Clash never released a more commercial album than London Calling. That was the one I remember most radio stations were picking up on and playing, and it has the most polished production of any of their releases (besides the title track, "Brand New Cadillac" and "Clampdown" got their fair share or radio play). Combat Rock had its share of hits, yes, but also a lot of experimentation as well; hardly what I would call commercial.

I think Sound Affects by the Jam is their most commerical record, and it also happens to be my favorite by them. Commercialsm shouldn't necessarily mean a bad record or selling out. Just because a song or two by a "little known band" suddenly becomes popular to the masses is not necessarily a bad thing. A lot of bands that have made "commerical" albums went on to do many things later on that were not commerical (Ministry, anyone?).

by **xtc-1957** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:12 am

Too painful to think about.[:(]

by **tory** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:00 am

The Jam was probably more Britsh orientated than the Clash.

I find myself more moved by the Jam these days, the Clash had their moments (London Calling), but the Jam have a sense of naievity that I find appealing.

by **Moparmark** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:50 am

I would have to say the Jam(although I love both).Its because the Jam I think stayed closer to thier mod roots,where the clash went in different directions.

by **xtc-1957** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:23 pm

I'm gonna go with - The Jam.

Website · by **SPIZEII** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:25 am

THE CLASH - 'The Only Band That Mattered'!

by **neworder** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:48 pm

The Jam: they wee the peoples band. I still remember jumping around my room to Going Underground as it was anounced that it had gone in straight at NO.1.

It was such a great feeling that a "cool" band had acheived that feat.

by **mozo** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:40 am

Tough choice. As much as I like the Clash, I'd have to say The Jam. Paul Weller is one of the best singer song writers of any period (although his new material lacks the punch it once had). The Clash showed real progression in their sound but The Jam evolved from hard edge power pop to cool almost R&B sound while still retaining their political cynicism. The middle era was my favorite with Sound Affects being one of my top 5 albums of all time.

by **glokstadt** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:21 am

Tough Mother-Fuckin' Choice here! Love both... different styles... different writting styles... almost same political sense in their songs--angry young man/women aggression, fuck the system... The Jam were more British-orientated lyrically, The Clash not so, and there you have it... why one was more popular than the other. I only saw The Jam twice live, and The Clash four times... both put on a high-energy show, and both could sound terrible live, by which I mean out of tune guitars/vocals... best show were The Clash with The "English" Beat at the Hollywood Palladium, and The Jam with The Standards, The Pace, et al at Perkins Palace in Pasadena, CA! Signing off... "Fly low, and avoid the radar!" [:D]

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by **newwavepunkgirl** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:55 am

I like both actually! But if I have to pick, I'll say The Clash!Me beign a punk gal and all![8)]

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by **guyinsf** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:26 pm

Both bands are so great but the Jam had more and better singles and I own more Jam albums growing up, quite the opposite of other people I'm sure.

by **popreactor** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:48 pm

The Clash

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