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Almacantar - some viewpoints

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Postby eight6 » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:50 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by neworder[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Darkwave[/i]
<br>This Forum gets worse by the day.[xx(]
[/quote]

[b]Thats why im hangin out at www.NEWWAVEZONE.COM now[/b]
[/quote]

Hey, can you take Darkwave with you? After that bullshit post he made the other day, I'm sure he'd be a real credit to that board.

Damn, should have just posted that famous adieu line: "Sayonara dipshit!"

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Postby neworder » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:57 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by neworder[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Darkwave[/i]
<br>This Forum gets worse by the day.[xx(]
[/quote]

[b]Thats why im hangin out at www.NEWWAVEZONE.COM now
[/quote][/b]

Damn. I sincerely hate to hear this. How will the NWO ever survive such a crushing blow? Cheers and enjoy your time at

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[b]Survive? This place died along time ago.
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Postby MikeP » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:51 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by neworder[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by neworder[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Darkwave[/i]
<br>This Forum gets worse by the day.[xx(]
[/quote]

[b]Thats why im hangin out at www.NEWWAVEZONE.COM now[/b]
[/quote]

Damn. I sincerely hate to hear this. How will the NWO ever survive such a crushing blow? Cheers and enjoy your time at

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[b]Survive? This place died along time ago.[/b]
[/quote]
Hey, feel free to take your band of misfits elsewhere. Z and Andy together again? To the power of #!!![:D] I wonder how long it will be before your board no longer "tolerates all viewpoints" as it currently boasts. Ah well, shine on all you crazy power crystals!

Now, back to *gasp* The Rescue. Is there going to be more material other than the EP? I thought they had a great slightly Cure-esque sound. Any demos or unreleased material would be welcome.
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Postby n/a13 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:01 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by neworder[/i]
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Survive? This place died along time ago.
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And you are here to administer last rites?
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Postby Rubellan » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:50 am

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Maybe he thinks you're Rubellan?
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God, I hope not. Dean once saw a nasty review of the Autumnal Park CD on Amazon and immediately assumed it was me. No hiding here, as I would always post my (screen)name to something I comment on.

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Why don't I want it to say 'remaster'? Because it is not a remaster. It is a transfer from vinyl that is cleaned up to the best of someone's ability, be it mine or anyone elses. My feeling is that it should be called a remaster only if it's from the original tapes.
[/quote]

Actually, a remaster basically refers to improving/enhancing the sound. I use "remaster" on my CD's because that's exactly what I do. To just clean up the clicks and pops would be more appropriate to use the word "restore", though since I dig into re-EQing and other noise reduction processes, "remaster" is the appropriate word. Anyone got the Mobiles CD yet? :-)

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Postby tha_farfetch » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:46 am

Thank you SO MUCH seffe !
I'm so grateful.

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Postby SomebodySomewhere » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:29 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>I'm beginning to wonder if SS (SomebodySomewhere) and Salsynth ([b]S[/b]al[b]S[/b]ynth) are one in the same? [/quote]

I'm Salsynth on Tuesdays, Rubellan on Thursdays, and tha_farfetch on control freak days.

I agree. This thread had "exhausted its potential" until salshyth changed the subject. Speaking of this thread, if anybody thinks twice about buying from ********** after reading all of it, I seriously doubt it's because of anything [i]I[/i] wrote.

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Postby eight6 » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:54 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere[/i]

Speaking of this thread, if anybody thinks twice about buying from ********** after reading all of it, I seriously doubt it's because of anything [i]I[/i] wrote.


[/quote]

No kidding: the way it reads now is that those who tout Almacantar and it's releases state you're not going to know what you're getting qualitywise until after they have your money, and you have the CD. Furthermore, they contend that's not a bad thing.

Line up guys, I've got some stuff to sell you.


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Postby salsynth » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:32 am

Hey SS, please don't mention my name in your posts anymore. Thank You. Almacantar is a great label. I wish there were many more like them. This way I could get things not ever released on cd (legally not bootlegged)more often.
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Postby MikeP » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:57 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere[/i]

Speaking of this thread, if anybody thinks twice about buying from ********** after reading all of it, I seriously doubt it's because of anything [i]I[/i] wrote.


[/quote]
No kidding: the way it reads now is that those who tout Almacantar and it's releases state you're not going to know what you're getting qualitywise until after they have your money, and you have the CD. Furthermore, they contend that's not a bad thing.

Line up guys, I've got some stuff to sell you.
[/quote]
Heh, typical ... as if I and others here approve inferior quality releases across the board.[|)]

No ... but it IS called a reality check. Do you hold all the other labels who engage in vinyl "remastering" to the same standards by warning buyers up front on a sticker or on their web site? Probably not. Do you honestly think the labels are going to divulge this information beforehand? Get real. I'm sure we've all been burned or at least disappointed by other releases that turned out to be muddy sounding, not from master tapes, etc., but they got our money didn't they?

Personally, I'd like to work with Dean or any other indie labels doing this, and get more enthusiasts here involved somehow. That's better than "all bitching and no action."
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Postby tiger_mn » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:57 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by MikeP[/i]
I'm sure we've all been burned or at least disappointed by other releases that turned out to be muddy sounding, not from master tapes, etc., but they got our money didn't they?
[/quote]

Yes, they probably did. But will they get anymore? Why is it wrong to expect a quality product for our money? Or better, some basic honesty?
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Postby eight6 » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:07 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by MikeP[/i]

Do you hold all the other labels who engage in vinyl "remastering" to the same standards by warning buyers up front on a sticker or on their web site?

[/quote]

Not that I buy many CDs, (still working through my vinyl) but those that I do buy are held to the same level of scrutiny in terms of an expected sound quality based on what I know about the release. Without a notation that the CD was vinyl sourced, I assume it was sourced from master tapes.

If they were upfront with the fact it was vinyl sourced, and I still choose to buy it, I live with what I get. Not being given that information at the time of purchase is what I object to.

It's a simple concept. Frankly, I'm stunned that very few seems to see the logic in just being honest with customers.

[quote]

Probably not.

[/quote]

Wrong.

[quote]

Do you honestly think the labels are going to divulge this information beforehand? Get real.

[/quote]

Yes, a little honesty and integrity would be too much to ask for. What was I thinking?

[quote]


Personally, I'd like to work with Dean or any other indie labels doing this, and get more enthusiasts here involved somehow. That's better than "all bitching and no action."
[/quote]

I find it amazing how many times it's "bitching" when one refuses to put up and shut up. Nobody is bitching, I'm simply asking for more information upfront to make a prudent purchase decision.


And lastly,

[quote]

Heh, typical ... as if I and others here approve inferior quality releases across the board.[|)]

[/quote]

No, but you do seem to approve of selected inferior releases with the explanation that others do it...correct me if I'm wrong.

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Postby eight6 » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:20 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by salsynth[/i]
<br>Hey SS, please don't mention my name in your posts anymore.
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Since Almacantar = **********, maybe SS could use ???????? for you.

A ridiculous request.

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Postby salsynth » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:50 am

Are you the mayor or something? Do you decide what is okay here? You seem like a very smart person when it comes to music, but you make some strange comments. I am glad that SS calmed down, I just do not want to be mentioned in his posts. Please mind your business. Thank you.
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Postby eight6 » Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:26 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by salsynth[/i]
<br>Are you the mayor or something? Do you decide what is okay here? You seem like a very smart person when it comes to music, but you make some strange comments. I am glad that SS calmed down, I just do not want to be mentioned in his posts. Please mind your business. Thank you.
[/quote]

No I'm not the mayor, and no, I don't decide what is okay here, but that's never stopped me from commenting on the endless stream of melodrama that permeates the NWO.

[i]"Please mind your business"[/i]? You're joking right?

And you're implying [i]I[/i] post some strange comments...

If it's posted here, I'll comment if I want to. If you don't like it, don't post. Seems simple enough to me. Feel free to complain, it's the melodramatic thing to do.


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