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The UK? American? Other? Who Ruled New Wave?

New Wave/Punk music, culture, genres, memories. '80s revivalism and other relevant topics.

Postby Ollie Stench » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:23 am

I had to go with the UK because at the time I was a complete and utter Anglophile. In the ensuing decades I have come to listen to more New Wave/underground music from Europe in general and Germany in particular.
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Postby TragicMagic » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:54 am

Would we call Ramones New Wave? (confused).. for that point also are Cheap Trick strictly a new wave band?

Also, though born in the U.S .. didn't Lene Lovich Grow up and make her music in the UK?

... I dunno.. i just have a hard time categorising lots of US bands as New Wave.. In fact the only ones that really always consitently stick in my head are DEVO and B52's... the rest seem a bit too Pop and Rock to me.. however it is likely that's biased due to my personal taste of the UK New Wave scene.


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Postby empyrean » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:17 pm

So its UK. The question is, which city in UK has the most NW bands.

Liverpool?
Glastonbury?
Manchester?
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Postby TragicMagic » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:04 pm

Birmingham [;)]

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Postby WolverineSyr » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:58 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by TragicMagic[/i]
<br>Would we call Ramones New Wave? (confused).. for that point also are Cheap Trick strictly a new wave band?

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I always think that one persons definition of "what is or isn't new wave is purely up to them & their own interpretation of what the genre is. For me, the New York scene & early punk are way too closely tied to new wave to segregate them. It's way too limiting for me to pigeon-hole artists & bands because I'm probably just not all that discriminating. It's all up to the individual for me.

Personally I wouldn't call many bands strictly new wave since they evolve, try out new things and often migrate away from what they originally did. But, if someone started out in the genre then I lump them in anyways (within reason...no Rick Springfeild or Rex Smith for me...) even if they turn out to be boring old arena rockers like Cheap Trick.


As for Lene, I assumed that she was American, was part of the Ohio scene, recorded for Stiff - so in my head - she's from the U.S.
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Postby Mechi » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:11 pm

The UK.
But the post punk scene in NY was really something...and we also have to remember that DEVO and The B-52's also came from the States.

And the German NW scene is also really important to the movement.

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Postby the_moth » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:22 am

UK that is, its New Wave bands were relying more on synths, which for me is an important criterion to be New Wave, while the US bands felt edgier and quite a lot were known before and after New Wave came up in totally different genres. I guess.
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Postby jumpshift » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:47 am

United Kingdom. No question about it. Without the brilliance of artists that came out there. Morrissey, The SMiths, New Order, Depeche Mode, Echo & The Bunnymen, Psychedelic Furs, Talk Talk, and many others it wouldn't be called New Wave.
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Postby zill » Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:00 am

I would also have to say the UK...

But let's not forget about Canada's contributions to the genre as well! 22 replies and not even an honourable mention?[:(!]
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