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New Monuments

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New Monuments

Postby popreactor » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:50 am

There is a new trend in monument buildings in the countries of former
Yugoslavia. After the wars that aimed to erradicate the multi-
cultural character of the former society, now the monuments are built
in celebration of that very character to globally recognized
imaginary heroes that fight for justice and protect the innocent:
Bruce Lee in Mostar (Bosnia), Rocky Balboa in Zitiste (Serbia),
Winettou in Plitvice (Croatia), Tarzan in Medja (Serbia) - birthplace
of Jonny Weismueller, and Samantha Fox (before breast-reduction) in
Cacak, the capital of Serbian country music. Significantly, the only
place where such a monument faces desacration and vandalism is Mostar
in Bosnia, also the only place still with multi-ethnic population. Is
it so that Balkanians can accept theoretical multi-culturalism only
once they practically destroy traces of culture of "others" around
them?

http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archiv ... erbia.html

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Postby popreactor » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:55 am

It seems that Sam Fox won't get her statue!

http://xrrf.blogspot.com/2007/04/sam-fo ... rtist.html

I was wondering if this would have happened in any other country?
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Postby shovelbum » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:38 am

Popreactor,

hmmmm! Interesting analyzation there.

I am an American of Croatian descent (3rd generation) and I find it amazing that my family (mostly parents and grandparents) can still spit on the ground if they hear someone mention that they are Serbian or of Serbian descent. I can't figure out how it pertains to us as Americans. Afterall, can we truly say we are "Croatian" or "Serbian" if we are born in America? I think it's sad that these people bring their prejudices to the states with them and pass those same prejudices on to their children and grandchildren. My grandfather was disappointed in me for not seeing it his way, but I think of it like this: I am also part Cherokee, part Greek, part Polish, and part Irish. If I start holding prejudices against different ethnicities then I eventually will end up having to hate myself!

I imagine Yugoslavia's wounds are still tender after what you have all endured and it will take a long time to mend. Good luck and blessings to you and yours!

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Postby popreactor » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:01 pm

Yugoslavia has always been an artificial creation and intolerence among the folks who were living there was always present since the early days. It all culminated during the war in the 90's.
Shovelbum, I totaly agree with you that it is totally wrong if the granparents or parents pass their bad prejudices to their children. It's completly wrong. The young folks should be the one who will provide tolerance and understanding instead mistrust and intolerance.
I have been to Croatia once since the war eneded and I didn't have any bad expirience. Here in Serbia people still aren't encouraged to travel to Croatia by car because of the car registartion and all the bad things that can happen to their car if anyone sees it.Croats on the other hand travel more often to Serbia! I don't have problems with the prejudices. I have two very close friends in Croatia and I will probably spend my summer holiday there.



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Postby empyrean » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:27 pm

You mean there are no more statues of Marshall Tito?

Good to see Bruce Lee


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Postby shovelbum » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:45 am

Pop,

I have always wanted to visit there. I have seen video footage and pictures and it looks absolutely beautiful. I think alot of people don't realize what a rich history the area has.

When you come back, please post some pictures for our enjoyment!
Have a good trip!

[;)]

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Postby popreactor » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:14 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by empyrean[/i]
<br>You mean there are no more statues of Marshall Tito?

Good to see Bruce Lee
[/quote]

Marshall Tito is past as is Yugoslavia.There are still statues of Tito but they don't have the same meaning the had once.
CNN recently made some TV stories about the most beautiful sights of the Balkan region including the previously mentioned.
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