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Postby Mechi » Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:42 am

160 Gb of space??? Does that one come only in black or do they make it in other colours???
I've also got the 4Gb Nano and I'm very happy with it... the only thing is that I've already filled a bit more than 3 Gb of it and I had to think things very well so as to achieve a nice diversity. I wish I could have uploaded stuff with not so much attention of how many sapce I was taking. It was pretty hard!!

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Postby MARV » Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:00 am

Well the post Y2K laptops still have a lot of usability left in them. One I turned into a DVR, another one I take with me to back up or upload to a server digital photos that I take while I'm in the field, another one I take with me on vacation and use as a portable DVD player. Or they're randomly strewn around the house for on the fly web surfing or iTunes streaming from the server in my office.

The pre Y2K ones I just pick up for the sheer fun of collecting. Some people collect old cameras, some people collect old salt & pepper shakers...a graphic designer like me weaned on the Mac likes to collect these old babes. They're like these industry artifacts of the digital age to me, not unlike the first printing presses which really marked the beginning of a modern era in graphic design:

http://www.historyguide.org/intellect/press.html

I also like analyzing the evolution of the industrial design, something Mac has always been noted for. Many a time they need work and I enjoy the challenge in finding parts, taking them apart and figuring them out. They're not expensive. Twenty, thirty bucks off eBay and it's like I have a puzzle to figure out. But the real fun is on a Friday night when I network them all together and - no, just kidding [:o)]

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Postby ben_at_work » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:09 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by marvymarv[/i]
<br>Well the post Y2K laptops still have a lot of usability left in them. One I turned into a DVR, another one I take with me to back up or upload to a server digital photos that I take while I'm in the field, another one I take with me on vacation and use as a portable DVD player. Or they're randomly strewn around the house for on the fly web surfing or iTunes streaming from the server in my office.

The pre Y2K ones I just pick up for the sheer fun of collecting. Some people collect old cameras, some people collect old salt & pepper shakers...a graphic designer like me weaned on the Mac likes to collect these old babes. They're like these industry artifacts of the digital age to me, not unlike the first printing presses which really marked the beginning of a modern era in graphic design:

http://www.historyguide.org/intellect/press.html

I also like analyzing the evolution of the industrial design, something Mac has always been noted for. Many a time they need work and I enjoy the challenge in finding parts, taking them apart and figuring them out. They're not expensive. Twenty, thirty bucks off eBay and it's like I have a puzzle to figure out. But the real fun is on a Friday night when I network them all together and - no, just kidding [:o)]

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Nice! I just picked up a Mac laptop for 30 bucks off of ebay. bI maxed out the ram and bought a USB LAN adapter rather than getting an airport card. I put Photoshop and microsoft word on it and gave it to my son. He loves it and of coarse all his friends at school think it's cool because it's "retro" I never noticed a flaw in apples design though. when the laptop is open the little apple logo on the lid lights up, but is upside down. Oh yeah, I picked up a 30 gig harddrive off of ebay for 12 buck and popped that in, partitioned it so system 9 could have it's own space (the dvd player doesnt work on OS X, so if he wants to watch movies he has to boot sys. 9

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Postby MARV » Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:21 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by ben_at_work[/i]
<br>the dvd player doesnt work on OS X, so if he wants to watch movies he has to boot sys. 9[/quote]

Wow, that's actually a very, very clever solution. You must have bought a Wallstreet/Lombard/Pismo series G3 Powerbook. The black one? There's actually a way to make them DVD compliant but it involves a relatively costly hardware solution that I could never justify on such an old Mac. I wonder if I installed Classic would I be able to play a DVD without even having to restart? See, this is the kind of fun I have on my old Macs [:p] But yeah, these are computers I don't mind letting my kids get their grubby hands on because they cost so little.

P.S. The upside down logo thing was corrected on subsequent Power and iBooks.

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Postby Frau_Blucher » Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:36 pm

Jeez, so which of you wants first dibs on my now-useless PCMCIA USB and Firewire cards? I think I also have the DVD Video PC card that enables DVD playing on a couple of the older G3 PBs, not to mention spare CDRW and DVD drives.

Now if I could only find a DeLorean I could sell to Marv or Ben. You know, it's got that sweet 2.8 liter French-made V6 so befitting of a supercar. It certainly helped make it the success that it was.
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Postby MARV » Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:52 pm

I really want that old Newton you have. But if you ever want to unload any of the other junk you just mentioned, please, let me know [;)]

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Postby hexicon » Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:23 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by tiger_mn[/i]
<br>As one of the remaining sexy technology grinches, I am only too happy to avoid this lemmingPod Love-In.

Blir - Make sure you get your special shorts with the pocket for your new player. That way, when you cruise restrooms at the MSP airport, you'll have a snappy answer when someone says "Is that an iPod in your pocket or are you here for anonymous sex?"


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I've said it before--I'm a happy owner of two iPods, but I'm still waiting for the version that vibrates and dispenses espresso.[:D]
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Postby ben_at_work » Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:17 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by marvymarv[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by ben_at_work[/i]
<br>the dvd player doesnt work on OS X, so if he wants to watch movies he has to boot sys. 9[/quote]

Wow, that's actually a very, very clever solution. You must have bought a Wallstreet/Lombard/Pismo series G3 Powerbook. The black one? There's actually a way to make them DVD compliant but it involves a relatively costly hardware solution that I could never justify on such an old Mac. I wonder if I installed Classic would I be able to play a DVD without even having to restart? See, this is the kind of fun I have on my old Macs [:p] But yeah, these are computers I don't mind letting my kids get their grubby hands on because they cost so little.

P.S. The upside down logo thing was corrected on subsequent Power and iBooks.

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Yup, a Lombard G3. My son loves it and all it's retroy goodness and that little usb LAN thing works great for the price. Yeah, a friend told me about a hardware fix, but it wont kill him to boot 9 to watch a flick. Old macs are cool. My next project is to turn one of the real old ones into a fish tank for my office. [;)]

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Postby shovelbum » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:05 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by hexicon[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by tiger_mn[/i]
<br>As one of the remaining sexy technology grinches, I am only too happy to avoid this lemmingPod Love-In.

Blir - Make sure you get your special shorts with the pocket for your new player. That way, when you cruise restrooms at the MSP airport, you'll have a snappy answer when someone says "Is that an iPod in your pocket or are you here for anonymous sex?"


[/quote]


I've said it before--I'm a happy owner of two iPods, but I'm still waiting for the version that vibrates and dispenses espresso.[:D]
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Postby MARV » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:22 am

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/a ... 08B5099%7D

Has anyone else been following the news about the new Google phone?

http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9747799-7.html

http://www.boston.com/business/technolo ... gle_phone/

Or Apple possibly teaming up with Google?

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/mai ... _join.html

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Postby Frau_Blucher » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:37 am

Marv, these are matters that the greater powers of the universe will sort out one way or another. For me, Fedex just came to the door with 160 sweet gigas of iPod goodness. I'm now drunk with the power to populate it with the tens of thousands of songs that I'll lately never listen to. Bwaaahahah. HAAAAHAHAHAHAH! BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh btw, it really doesn't look much different from the older iPod. One could easily mistake the two. If you're looking for maximal new gizmo wow factor, this isn't the choice. This really is soley for the drunk-with-power-with-ungodly-storage types.
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Postby Mechi » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:51 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
<br>Marv, these are matters that the greater powers of the universe will sort out one way or another. For me, Fedex just came to the door with 160 sweet gigas of iPod goodness. I'm now drunk with the power to populate it with the tens of thousands of songs that I'll lately never listen to. Bwaaahahah. HAAAAHAHAHAHAH! BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh btw, it really doesn't look much different from the older iPod. One could easily mistake the two. If you're looking for maximal new gizmo wow factor, this isn't the choice. This really is soley for the drunk-with-power-with-ungodly-storage types.
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I'm sure that you must be feeling sooo powerful right now, I'd be in a cloud of happiness if I had almost unlimited storage power. [;)]

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Postby drsevrin » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:28 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by marvymarv[/i]
<br>The 3400 is next on my list. So far, I have:

- the first Bondi Blue iBook
- a "Snow" G3 iBook with translucent case
- a G4 iBook, opaque case
- Lombard Powerbook
- Titanium Powerbook
- Powerbook 1400cs
- Powerbook 5300
- Powerbook Duo 230
- Powerbook 520c
- Powerbook 165c
- eMate 300
- 2 Mac Portables (the very first "portable" Mac), one with the original case. This is insane, look at the original MSRP: $6500! http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/p ... table.html Can you imagine lugging one of those to work every day?

I collect the laptops because they're far easier to store compared to the desktops and towers. I used to have a Quadra 800 A/V and a Performa 6220. I wish I hung onto them but I was really strapped for space and in those days I wasn't really thinking like a collector. Right now, I have a G4 400mhz tower and a dual ghz G5 tower under my desk. I have a KVM switch between the two and sometimes use them both when my workload requires it. I also have the original iMac in my son's room.

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You're a man after my own heart, Marv. If you or Blir are ever out West look me up and I'll buy you a beer (You're invited too, Ben). I thought I had too many Macs:
- PowerPC 6100/66
- PowerPC 7500
- Wallstreet G3 laptop (266 MHz)
- Black Intel Core Duo 2.16 GHz laptop
- 1.8 GHz iMac
- Dual 1.8 GHz G5 Desktop

Gone but not forgotten:
- Mac SE
- an original 128k or 512k (can't remember which)

Just got rid of a blue/white G3 desktop my mom had (wish I'd kept it now). I'm looking for another Wallstreet/Lombard/Pismo G3 laptop for running OpenBSD UNIX - which has been ported to a quite a few Mac models. I was looking for an old Quadra or Centris desktop for this but came to the same realization - the laptops make much more sense from a space standpoint.

I let my kids pound away on the old PowerPC's but my wife is pressuring me to get rid of them due to space and clutter issues. And yes, for fun on a Friday night I do occasionally network them together . . . [:D]. Actually it's for a reason, most of them have been in my extended family for 10-15 years, so there is a defacto archive of family history in the form of files, emails, etc., so one current project is one of archiving and preservation. I spend way too much time trying to get old SCSI hard drives mount as well as getting the old OS 7 and 8 machines to talk to the newer models so I can preserve all the old files.

As for the iPods, I vote 160 GB Classic. Being out west, memory is like ammo, you can never have too much.
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Postby MARV » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:18 am

Hey Sevrin, nice collection you have there! Hey, what about this guy:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/08/0 ... index.html

Check out this old-school babe:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-2400c-G3-240M ... dZViewItem

I did a similiar thing with my Powerbook 1400, rigging it with an Orinoco WAV/LAN card.

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Postby drsevrin » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:31 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by marvymarv[/i]
<br>Hey Sevrin, nice collection you have there! [/quote]
Thanks - likewise. I just picked up another G3 Wallstreet (300 MHz, DVD, 8 GB) today on ebay.
[quote]Hey, what about this guy:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/08/0 ... index.html[/quote]

I'm not worthy.

They're not macs, but this guy always cracks me up. Anyone who can fill their house with mainframes and mini's . . . (and three-phase power):
http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/index.html
[quote]Check out this old-school babe:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-2400c-G3-240M ... dZViewItem
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I'd forgotten about that one - that's a sweet machine. Way ahead of its time. Back on topic, sort of, this reminds me of how the iPod/iPhones are slowly morphing into sub-sub notebooks themselves. With built in, stripped-down OS 10 and that amazing touchscreen the potential is practically limitless.

How did the wireless card work out on your 1400? I'd like to pick up a wireless PCMCIA card for the Wallstreets at some point.
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