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Postby edisonoside » Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:28 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by marvymarv[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by edisonoside[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by marvymarv[/i]
<br>Ron Paul is too far out of the mainstream to be taken seriously.

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Is "mainstream" Bush policy??? If so then mainstream is a bad thing and in need of some Constitutional fixin, If Ron Paul is not Bush mainstream policy then that is a very, very good thing.
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I'm sorry, is Bush running? E-side, I swear to God you have a fucking psychological disorder that makes the George Bush paranoia alarms go off in your head every time you see a thread that has anything remotely to do with anything political. With his popularity numbers low and his own party's candidates already having distanced themselves from him, how in the world is Bush policy mainstream policy?

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Because of Bush the U.S mainstream has strayed and become so unrecognizably different. I watch the debates and I see most of the candidates as all talk. They say they've strayed from Bush policy but, In reality they will stay the Bush coarse in just about everything. Fox news media will make sure the mainstream all think alike and dare not stray from the collective mainstream mind frame. By the way, Didn't you vote for Bush?...Twice? Who is you candidate this time?
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Postby MikeP » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:20 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by SallyLightfoot[/i]
With the IRS gone, which agency will oversee this massive undertaking (individual revenues will need to be monitored to provide rebates). Well, he'll have to create a whole new agency to manage the national sales tax.
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Regardless, I'm inclined to think this agency will be 100-fold leaner and less prone to thuggery and intimidation tactics. Who says radical change can't be a good thing? Sorry, but I can't get warm and fuzzy about the IRS -- it's not like I'd be losing an old friend or anything.
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Postby marie3 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:37 am

Though I like some of what Ron Paul says, I don't believe we will have any presidential candidates worth anything come November. Being a registered Independent, I would love to see an Independent, Libertarian, any other party running besides the same old tired Republican or Democrat.
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Postby MARV » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:39 am

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Postby SallyLightfoot » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:56 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by MikeP[/i]
<br>Regardless, I'm inclined to think this agency will be 100-fold leaner and less prone to thuggery and intimidation tactics. Who says radical change can't be a good thing? Sorry, but I can't get warm and fuzzy about the IRS -- it's not like I'd be losing an old friend or anything.
[/quote]I hear what you're saying. It is not my position to defend the practices of the IRS, but to point out the shifting of tax collection from one place to another (from individual taxpayers to check-out counters and businesses across the country). Here are a couple of articles from the right and left:

Fair Tax, Flawed Tax
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110010523

Mike Huckabee wants to abolish the IRS
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/20 ... kabee_tax/

It seems potentially rash to dismantle the current tax system at a time when the government is awash in debt and the economy is sliding into a recession. Revenue shortfalls in any new scheme will need to be smoothed out by program cuts or higher taxes.

Finally, we should bear in mind that there's certainly a chance that a national sales tax might get added, but for various reasons the old tax system never fully goes away. Anything can happen.
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Postby Bitter Almonds » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:26 pm

<p align="justify">Besides, doesn't it take an act of Congress to abolish the IRS? Does anyone think that's [i]really[/i] gonna happen? Sooooo many fuckin' promises. How come they don't "campaign" like this year-round?[}:)]
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Postby drsevrin » Thu May 08, 2008 2:44 pm

This might be of interest to fellow Ron Paul supporters:

http://www.revolutionmarch.com/Default. ... 1047106361
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