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Postby MARV » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:12 am

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Postby enzfan » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:32 am

Tom you must have brown eyes because you are so full of shit. If such the authority on everything how come the omnipotent one has been divorced twice? His parents were actually from here (Louisville) and their goofy spawn lived here two different times plus attended one year of high school in the area. I'm a SP Tom so FU.
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Postby eight6 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:54 am

If being in a bad accident wasn't the definition of fubar, having Tom peer into the wreckage ready to help, surely would mean fubar. Do me a favor Tom, keep on driving.

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Postby phillyidol » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:25 am

But he is the only one that can help.

Fuck you Tom. They really did a job brainwashing you asshole.

He is the guy at the party that I punch in the face.
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:47 am

Jeez, he's saying absolutely NOTHING.

"I mean, that's what I want it to be, okay? That's how...I wouldn't...you know there's times I'd like to do that but...but I can't...because...I know...I KNOW...so...I ya, you know, once you know...I ah, have to do something. It's not...you can sit here and wish it was different and you look at it and you go..." BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH FUCKING BLAH!

OMG. What's "it"? What do you know? What is "that"? What is "something"? He's like a complete fucking retard trying to mimic something intelligible. Shut your cuntflaps you massive cunt!
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Postby MARV » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:10 am

Hey Blir, I know how you feel about my long-ass posts and links but since I know you're looking for something intelligible regarding Scientology, here ya go:

[i]The News-Herald

Son of Scientology

He’s the son of the founder of the controversial church he now calls a dangerous cult.

For a look inside Scientology see the story below.

July 7 - July 13, 1982

by Dennis Wheeler


He’s been called the Son of Scientology

His name has been changed from L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., to Ron deWolf, and he’s the firstborn son of the former science fiction writer who founded the Church of Scientology. It’s been 23 years since he’s seen his father, and he suspects that the founder of what many people call a destructive cult may, in truth, be dead.

To be perfectly frank, my life’s been pretty much of a disaster and a miserable mess because of Scientology — and you can quote me on that." he told the News-Herald recently in an exclusive interview.

At the age of 48, DeWolf still has the startling red hair that characterized his father. He lives with his wife and youngest son in Carson City, Nevada; five other children are grown and live elsewhere.

His version of his father’s life, in fact, is radically different from that painted by the Church. Scientology publications portray the senior Hubbard as an idealistic young man who traveled the world in search of truth — an explorer, writer, filmmaker, soldier, and humanitarian, highly educated and eager to eliminate the ills of modern society.

But DeWolfe flatly says: "Better than 90 percent of what my father has written about himself is untrue." He tells harrowing tales of his own childhood, recalling how during World War II "my father used to mix phenobarbital with bubble gum and give it to me and my sister — I remember the darn stuff was very bitter. Then he would tell us stories, great stories, but I could never remember him finishing a lot of them. He would feed us bubble gum, and then try to put us in hypnotic trances in order to create what he called a ‘moonchild.’

This, says DeWolf, stemmed from his father’s continual interest in black magic and the occult. DeWolf himself was born prematurely, weighing two pounds, two ounces, and he now tells people, " I wasn’t exactly born, I was aborted. He was trying to do an abortion bit on me. He had one of those insane things, especially during the ‘30s, of trying to invoke the devil for power and practices. My mother told me about him trying out all kinds of various incantations, drugs and hypnosis...His initials for it were PDH — pain, drugs, hypnosis. The use of PDH, coupled with black magic, was an effective for of brainwashing or mind control. You’ll see throughout early Scientology literature, ‘PDH.’"

DeWolf also describes his father as a wife-beater. "He used to beat her up quite often. He had a violent, volcano-type temper, and he smacked her around quite a bit. I remember in 1946 or 1947 when he was beating up my mother one night. I had a .22 rifle and I sat on the stairway with him in my sights, and I almost blew his head off."

Then, in 1950 when DeWolf was 18, the senior Hubbard wrote the phenomenal best-selling book which gave birth to the Church of Scientology, Dianetics: The Modern Science of mental Health. The Book, according to its publishers, documented the results of Hubbard’s intensive research on roughly 280 "case histories." But DeWolf says, "All were subcreated by Dad. None of them were case histories whatsoever; they were done strictly out of his mind, sitting at a typewriter in a few weeks times."

Nevertheless, soon after the book’s publication, "Dianetics Foundations" were set up in order to allow people to buy "dianetic auditing," or counseling. DeWolf received auditing in Seattle, but his father refused to let him tell his auditors his true identity -- which, DeWolf points out with a laugh, "makes it rather impossible to receive any auditing if it’s being done under an assumed name and you can’t reveal 99 percent of your past...One day I got tired of it, and told one of the auditors who I was. You would have thought the poor girl went into cardiac arrest...That was my first taste of being what later I used to refer laughingly as ‘the great red godlet.’"

Hubbard’s relation to his father allowed him to rise rapidly in the world of Dianetics, and he was one of the original incorporators of the very first Church of Scientology in New Jersey in 1954. Later he became the chief instructor of advanced clinical courses both in England and the United States, delivering many of his lectures, he says, off the top of his head while stoned on drugs. "Also later on, I became Executive Secretary, which meant that I was the head of Scientology in the United States."

DeWolf says he was present at the 1954 convention of Scientologists in Arizona at which his father fired a pistol into the floor, thus allegedly demonstrating the process called "R2-45" — shooting a "Supressive Person" in the head. "I thought he was kidding and that it was a blank, but it wasn’t; there was a hole in the floor. It was for real; he meant it."

During the ‘50s, DeWolf continues, he conned people out of their money, used black magic, distributed drugs, and took advantage of the church’s female followers, participating in private orgies with his father and three or four women. "His theory was that one has to open or crack a woman’s soul in order for the satanic power to pour through it and into him," Dewolf said in a recent magazine interview. "It got kind of far out, culminating in a variety of sex acts. Dad also had an incredibly violent temper. He was into S&M and would beat his mistresses and shoot them full of drugs." His father used amphetamines and cocaine, DeWolf says, plus some hallucinogens.

The women serving L. Ron Hubbard, says his son, "were very good at doing the dirty work, at running money or drugs back and forth. They were very good in any of the dirty tricks-department, because they had absolutely totally slavish devotion to L. Ron Hubbard.

Current members of Scientology may be horrified at these stories of the early days of their church, especially since the tales are told by the actual son of the sect’s founder. And DeWolf himself admits that the drug abuse and black magic rites "weren’t necessarily in the Scientology hierarchy, not at the top of the pyramid but more like side-by-side with it. You could be a Scientology leader and not know anything about it".

In 1959, DeWolf abruptly left the Church. The defection, he says, was prompted by his wife Henrietta, whom he’d always shielded from Scientology. "She’s terribly patient and loses her temper maybe once every five years— and if she ever does, the whole universe shakes." says DeWolf with a grin. "Anyhow, she just flatly said to me one day, ‘Make your choice — me or Scientology,’ and she really meant it. Perhaps because of my own childhood, my family was very important to me. So one weekend I just threw a letter in the mailbox and left, to drive cross country to Los Angeles. Then on January 3, 1960, my father sent me a telegram saying that he was going to have me arrested for theft of a mailing list and money — that he was going to ‘crush’ me, and that I’d better run and hide or he would find me and destroy me." Later, however, father and son were more amiable and exchanged correspondence, although they never saw each other again.

Life outside Scientology was "terrible" at first says DeWolf: "I didn’t know how to make a living— except for being a god." since 1959, though, he’s held a variety of jobs, currently as an apartment manager and before that in the security division of a casino/hotel.

Scientology officials now sometimes claim that DeWolf denounces his father only to gain publicity for himself and to promote the book he’s writing. DeWolf, however, claims, that in the past 23 years since leaving the cult, he received only $6,300 related to Scientology " from "both sides of the fence."

And not all professionals in the "anti-cult" field trust DeWolf, either, Scientology officials, while reluctant to admit DeWolf’s very existence, when faced with his accusations distribute a transcript of a videotape which DeWolf made in 1972. On tape, DeWolf says he had no personal knowledge of any wrong-doing or illegal acts or brutality against people by members of Scientology, and that he lied in earlier testimony.

DeWolf now says the tape was made "under duress...I did a lot of talking to a lot of people, and nobody believed me. They thought what I had to say was as far out as Scientology itself. But I can’t expose L. Ron Hubbard without exposing myself. So I had to reach a point where I was ready, willing, and able to in actual fact let everything — everything hang out. The whole ball of wax — the good, the bad, the beautiful, the ugly...It wasn’t really until 1978, in fact, that I got out from under it. I didn’t have all kinds of counselors or ‘deprogrammers.’"

The elder Hubbard, according to his son, "had a tremendous amount of charisma. His ability to sway people was really quite awesome. I saw people come in there angry as hell at him, and two seconds later they’d walk away happy — you’d wonder what happened. That’s one of the reasons it was very difficult for me, and for many other people, to get away, to get out from under."

DeWolf’s mother, he says, was divorced from his father and died an alcoholic in 1963, bitterly opposed to her ex-husband and the organization that he founded. To date, according to DeWolf, Hubbard is known to have had at least seven children by three wives. His current wife, Mary Sue, is one of nine top Scientology leaders convicted on charges of conspiracy, burglary, or theft of secret documents from federal offices in Washington, D.C. In 1975, DeWolf’s half brother Quentin apparently committed suicide in Las Vegas; he was found in a car with a hose running into it from the exhaust pipe.

Is the founder of Scientology himself still alive? Probably not, says Dewolf, "although I haven’t seen his body, or been to his funeral." Hubbard hasn’t made any tape recordings to his followers for several years, and if he is alive, he’s hiding, perhaps on a resort ranch in Southern California. As recently as a year ago DeWolf received a typewritten correspondence purportedly from Hubbard, but he claims the style of writing isn’t his father’s. The last documented time a non-Scientologist saw Hubbard, according to DeWolf, was in 1980.

Scientology officials say the founder of their church is alive and well, still engaged in "research," although they claim he gave up his role in leadership in 1966. In the Scientology mission in Santa Rosa ( as in most missions) is a mailbox emblazoned with Hubbard’s "Standing Order," which states that any mail addressed to him will be received by him. And Hubbard’s 850-page novel, Battlefield earth, will be released by St. Martin’s Press in October — the book tells of interplanetary war and "intergalactic financial intrigue" between Earth and the "Psychlos."

The future of Scientology? DeWolf believes the entire superstructure is crumbling under the glare of publicity and incontrovertible, documented evidence that Hubbard repeatedly has lied about himself — thus prompting even his most devoted followers to wonder if he’s lied about other things as well. "The key to sorting someone’s head out about Scientology is L. Ron Hubbard," says DeWolf, "He is ‘source,’ ‘cause,’ ‘creator,’ and ‘founder,’ Lay the true and actual man and his past out and the ‘construct’ falls apart. There’s no need to argue or even debate."

Infighting in Scientology at the moment is rampant, DeWolf believes. "Remember this basic thing — it’s a money-and-power game, period. It’s who’s got all the money, who can step on whom to climb up higher, who can control the most number of people, who’s got the best ‘stats,’ meaning statistics. It’s a mad scramble up the pyramid, and let’s see who we can trample in the climb.’

"There’s a lot of strong-arm stuff which of course the corporations of Scientology have always disavowed as being some misguided member doing something on his own initiative," DeWolf continues. "Or maybe they are changing. But the only problem is they’ve said that before — over and over and over again. About once a year they say that, and we always used to say that very same thing."



END

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Related:
Sworn testimony of Ron DeWolf in 1982 Clearwater Commission Hearings, and
Affidavit of Ron DeWolf filed in Flynn Litigation:



I, Ronald DeWolf, formerly L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., hereby do and state as follows under the penalties of perjury: 1) I have personal knowledge of the facts set forth in this affidavit. 2) I am the oldest son of L. Ron Hubbard, having been born on May 7, 1934 in Encinatas, California.

Excerpt:

"I personally know, relied specifically on my father's represented qualifications and credentials. The stated representations are all false. He never obtained degrees from those universities, or ever served in combat. He was relieved of duty three times as being unfit, and ended up in a psychiatric hospital at the end of the war. He is a fraud and has always been a fraud.

5) My father's fraudulent conduct is exemplified in the structure of his corporations including the Church of Scientology of California. In connection with each and every corporation which we created under general heading of 'the Church of Scientology', my father always required all of the Directors and Officers of all corporations to give him undated signed resignations in advance which he held. "[/i]

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Postby birdmadgirl » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:23 am

I wish he'd learn some grammar lessons while he's being programmed at the Scientology center. I can't make it though the entire video because my inner copy editor is freaking out.

(I hope Lord Xenu doesn't smite me now.)
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Postby phillyidol » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:28 am

Oh, he forgot to talk about the great alien overlord that killed all the space lawyers and space psychiatrists and put them in a volcano and dropped h bombs in it. He must have just forgot that those are the main teachings of their cult. True.




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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:37 am

His delusions are no worse than those of about 90% of the U.S. population.

But yeah, he's a tool.
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Postby Bitter Almonds » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:15 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>His delusions are no worse than those of about 90% of the U.S. population.

But yeah, he's a tool.



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<p align="justify">I was thinking the same thing, esp. seeing the news on the religious bullshit of huckabee and that moron, mitt.[}:)]
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Postby wherewereuin82 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:52 am

Pass the bong Tom! I want some of what he's on [:p].

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Postby KYYX4ever » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:06 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by wherewereuin82[/i]
<br>Pass the bong Tom! I want some of what he's on [:p].
[/quote]

no kidding, pass it along !

Holy cow, what the hell did he just say ? Oh wait, here we go: from wikipedia:
[b]logorrhea[/b]:
[i]Logorrhoea or logorrhea (Greek ëïãïññïéá, logorrhoia, “word-flux”) is defined as an “excessive flow of words” and, when used medically, refers to incoherent talkativeness that occurs in certain kinds of mental illness, such as mania. The spoken form of logorrhoea (in the non-medical sense) is a kind of verbosity that uses superfluous or fancy words to disguise a useless or simple message as useful or intellectual, and is commonly known as “verbal diarrhoea” or “diarrhoea of the mouth."[/i]

here is another link since youtube's was pulled:
<a href="http://defamer.com/344987/the-tom-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientologists-dont-want-you-to-see">bong hit.</a>
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Postby glokstadt » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:44 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by KYYX4ever[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by wherewereuin82[/i]
<br>Pass the bong Tom! I want some of what he's on [:p].
[/quote]

no kidding, pass it along !

Holy cow, what the hell did he just say ? Oh wait, here we go: from wikipedia:
[b]logorrhea[/b]:
[i]Logorrhoea or logorrhea (Greek ëïãïññïéá, logorrhoia, “word-flux”) is defined as an “excessive flow of words” and, when used medically, refers to incoherent talkativeness that occurs in certain kinds of mental illness, such as mania. The spoken form of logorrhoea (in the non-medical sense) is a kind of verbosity that uses superfluous or fancy words to disguise a useless or simple message as useful or intellectual, and is commonly known as “verbal diarrhoea” or “diarrhoea of the mouth."[/i]

here is another link since youtube's was pulled:
<a href="http://defamer.com/344987/the-tom-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientologists-dont-want-you-to-see">bong hit.</a>

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Postby Frau_Blucher » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:15 am

Jerry O'Connell is god. This is some hilarious and ballsie shit...

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Postby MARV » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:51 pm

[i]Marina Hyde
Friday January 26, 2007
The Guardian[/i]

It's official - Tom Cruise is divine
In a week in which we hardly need reminding that religion is the answer, not the problem, there is excellent news for imbeciles, or "Scientologists" as the sect's leaders euphemistically insist on referring to its followers. Specifically, Tom Cruise is the new Jesus. Right backatcha, Richard Dawkins!

If you believe reports, the deeply sane Mission Impossible star has been told by church bigwigs that he is the "chosen one", and destined to spread the word of Scientology around the world. Cynics are instructed to put aside the image of Terry Jones squawking, "He's not the Messiah, he's a very disturbed man!" and just acknowledge how much more resonant the whole water-into-wine thing would have been if Jesus had been able to do cool bar tricks like Tom's character in Cocktail. Or, perhaps, like Tom's commanding officer in Top Gun, you believe Jesus's ego was writing cheques his body couldn't cash, and that the whole Messiah myth will be reinvigorated by an entertainment personality with a better understanding of the need for an "up" ending.

Whatever your hopes, expect Biblical throngs to congregate from Reno to Rwanda, as Tom explains that we're all surrounded by evil alien spirits exiled to this planet by the galactic tyrant Xenu 75 billion years ago. And then bills them $30,000 each for the information.
According to an unnamed source in the Sun (which is pretty much the same thing as according to a magic pixie): "Tom has been told he is Scientology's Christ-like figure. Like Christ" - stay with this - "he has been criticised for his views. But future generations will realise he was right."

The counter-theory, of course, is that believing that Tom is the Messiah will result in future generations having to live under the earth's scorched crust, distilling drinking water from their own urine. But it has to be worth a punt, doesn't it?
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