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Stay (The Second Time Around) [Solved]

Postby Retro_NRG » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:44 am

This one is definitely an enigma of the highest order.[B)][?][B)]

It would be great if somehow this story could get a <a href="http://buzz.yahoo.com" target="blank">Yahoo buzz</a> posting.
Perhaps then.. just perhaps.. ((LOL)) it may garner enough attention to get ID'd.


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Postby MarekMM » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:24 am

Has anyone recently tried to contact with Rene,who originally posted this song on his site ? I have sent few messages,but can't reach him.

All i want to know is where he takes name "Stean Lemroy" [?] (on his site)
Maybe anyone know another e-mail or can contact through this address to ask this question...

On his site,he was marked few songs with [?] (and suspected artist name) and finally these names were right,such as "Panther (Panther Rex-Come Over tonight) and something else i don't remember right now...
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Postby phaota » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:20 am

This is a most interesting mystery. I've read from the first to last page here, listened to the song excerpt (cleaned it up too, which you will find below) and, like many before me, can't identify the group. BUT, I'm going to agree that it is White and Torch. Why, you ask? Compare the voices of the male singer in White and Torch's excellent song "Who's Asking You?" to the mystery tune. Sounds like the same guy to me. If it's not W&T, then it's freakin' close.

http://rapidshare.com/files/136152306/W ... You_82.mp3
http://rapidshare.com/files/136152561/U ... round_.mp3

BTW, would those of you that have shared MP3s in the past please fix your download links so those of us, like myself, can get them and enjoy. I would like to hear those tunes and add them to my massive 80s song archive. Thanks.

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Postby Panorama » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:56 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by phaota[/i]
<br>This is a most interesting mystery. I've read from the first to last page here, listened to the song excerpt (cleaned it up too, which you will find below) and, like many before me, can't identify the group. BUT, I'm going to agree that it is White and Torch. Why, you ask? Compare the voices of the male singer in White and Torch's excellent song "Who's Asking You?" to the mystery tune. Sounds like the same guy to me. If it's not W&T, then it's freakin' close.

http://rapidshare.com/files/136152306/W ... You_82.mp3
http://rapidshare.com/files/136152561/U ... round_.mp3

BTW, would those of you that have shared MP3s in the past please fix your download links so those of us, like myself, can get them and enjoy. I would like to hear those tunes and add them to my massive 80s song archive. Thanks.

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[/quote]Roy White and Jaq (members of the band White & Torch) already confirmed on 11/13/07 (on page 8 of this thread) that the song "Stay (The Second Time Around)" was not recorded by the band White & Torch.

Thank you for cleaning up the file.

I added the "Stay (The Second Time Around)" youtube video to my myspace profile, not that I get too many visitors:
http://www.myspace.com/cooganphoto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71e_R5nR7FU
Over 10,000 views in less than 1 year (posted 8/25/07)

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Postby phaota » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:35 pm

Well, even if it was confirmed, the male vocal still sounds like Roy White.

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Postby Panorama » Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:46 am

10,660 views in one year since I posted the video to youtube (8/25/07),
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71e_R5nR7FU
that's not bad, except we still don't have an answer to the mystery.

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Postby glokstadt » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:27 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Panorama[/i]
<br>10,660 views in one year since I posted the video to youtube (8/25/07),
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71e_R5nR7FU
that's not bad, except we still don't have an answer to the mystery.

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[/quote]

Not bad for a no-name, music-only video clip...

Two things Dan:

1) Hook your video up to my You Tube account (PowerPopFan) and add the "Second Time Arond" video clip to my video of The Promise by When In Rome, I've had over 150,000 hits in the past 10 months; maybe that will get it out there some more. Any other NWO members want to do the same???

2) Are you going to compile a list of what songs/artists have been guessed??? This can help folks with not having to read 9 pages of threads... Just a thought. [:D]



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Postby Panorama » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:43 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by glokstadt[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Panorama[/i]
<br>10,660 views in one year since I posted the video to youtube (8/25/07),
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71e_R5nR7FU
that's not bad, except we still don't have an answer to the mystery.

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[/quote]Not bad for a no-name, music-only video clip...

Two things Dan:

1) Hook your video up to my You Tube account (PowerPopFan) and add the "Second Time Arond" video clip to my video of The Promise by When In Rome, I've had over 150,000 hits in the past 10 months; maybe that will get it out there some more. Any other NWO members want to do the same???

2) Are you going to compile a list of what songs/artists have been guessed??? This can help folks with not having to read 9 pages of threads... Just a thought. [:D]

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[/quote]OK Glok, I added it as a "video response" -- hope that's what you meant, if not let me know.

Do we have a complete list of bands that have been eliminated? I'll be happy to add it to the youtube "Stay (The Second Time Around)" page.

Edit:
I added this list to the youtube page after I went through the 9 pages in this thread and compiled this list of eliminated bands:

Aldo Nova
Aebersold
Aleem
Jon Astley
K. Barré
Black Rose
Blind Date
Blue Cheer
The Blue Nile
Dan Byrd
Andres Calamaro
Mike Cannon
Canton
Cham CM
Cheating Ace
Cock Robin
The Controllers
Cool Notes
Curious Figures
Andre Cymone
Dagaband
Dear Enemy
Gordon Deppe
Dollar
The Dream Team
Drop Nineteens
Fatback
Fire Fly
First Affair
Full Force
George and Partner
Ghost
Grace Pool
Morten Harket
Icehouse
The Immaculate Fools
Jacobites
Melvin James
Jet
Rickie Lee Jones
Lions and Ghosts
Ian Lodge
Lost Patrol
Manteca
Marx and Spencer
Mighty Lemon Drops
Jeb Million
Modern Vision
New Scientists
The Posies
John O Banion
Quadrajets
Ken Roland
Romance at Eleven
The Saints
Sa-ra
Saturn V
Skope
Shalimar
Solveig Slettahjell
The Spoons
Stages
Stone Fury
Story Structure
Tiger Lou
The Tiny
Tonio K
Tor
White & Torch

---------------
(2) bands mentioned by MarekMM on page 4, but not eliminated (as far as I could see):
http://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/topic.as ... hichpage=4
Sid Haywoode – Second Time Around ’88
Simon – Stay
---------------
(14) bands mentioned by Water7 on page 5, but not eliminated (as far as I could see):
http://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/topic.as ... hichpage=5
Heat - "Stay"...only 7 " but i don´t know the year
Klaus Peter Schöpfer - "Please stay" 1988
Truth - "Second time " 1984 on the LP "Five live"
Wall of Vodoo - "Hollywood the second time"
Honeymoon Suite - "Stay" Toronto Studios Canada
Killer - "Stay with me" from the LP "Stronger than ever" 1984 Franfurt/Offenbach Germany
Blue Lazer - "Stay away from her" Rams Horn 1984
Joy - "Wanna make you stay" 1985
Hot House - "Don't come to stay" 1986 BMG ARIOLA HAMBURG
April May - "If you want me to stay"1987 WEA HAMBURG
Joe Mooney - "Second time around" Canada
Sweetness - "No second time around"
View from a Hill "Turn out the light" 1986 on the record "IN Time" - composed by Patrick Patterson!
LEE FARDON "TURN OUT THE LIGHT" 1983 on the record "The god given right"


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Postby empinball » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:07 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Panorama[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by glokstadt[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Panorama[/i]
<br>10,660 views in one year since I posted the video to youtube (8/25/07),
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71e_R5nR7FU
that's not bad, except we still don't have an answer to the mystery.

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[/quote]Not bad for a no-name, music-only video clip...

Two things Dan:

1) Hook your video up to my You Tube account (PowerPopFan) and add the "Second Time Arond" video clip to my video of The Promise by When In Rome, I've had over 150,000 hits in the past 10 months; maybe that will get it out there some more. Any other NWO members want to do the same???

2) Are you going to compile a list of what songs/artists have been guessed??? This can help folks with not having to read 9 pages of threads... Just a thought. [:D]

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[/quote]OK Glok, I added it as a "video response" -- hope that's what you meant, if not let me know.

Do we have a complete list of bands that have been eliminated? I'll be happy to add it to the youtube "Stay (The Second Time Around)" page.

Edit:
I added this list to the youtube page after I went through the 9 pages in this thread and compiled this list of eliminated bands:

Aldo Nova
Aebersold
Aleem
Jon Astley
K. Barré
Black Rose
Blind Date
Blue Cheer
The Blue Nile
Dan Byrd
Andres Calamaro
Mike Cannon
Canton
Cham CM
Cheating Ace
Cock Robin
The Controllers
Cool Notes
Curious Figures
Andre Cymone
Dagaband
Dear Enemy
Gordon Deppe
Dollar
The Dream Team
Drop Nineteens
Fatback
Fire Fly
First Affair
Full Force
George and Partner
Ghost
Grace Pool
Morten Harket
Icehouse
The Immaculate Fools
Jacobites
Melvin James
Jet
Rickie Lee Jones
Lions and Ghosts
Ian Lodge
Lost Patrol
Manteca
Marx and Spencer
Mighty Lemon Drops
Jeb Million
Modern Vision
New Scientists
The Posies
John O Banion
Quadrajets
Ken Roland
Romance at Eleven
The Saints
Sa-ra
Saturn V
Skope
Shalimar
Solveig Slettahjell
The Spoons
Stages
Stone Fury
Story Structure
Tiger Lou
The Tiny
Tonio K
Tor
White & Torch

---------------
(2) bands mentioned by MarekMM on page 4, but not eliminated (as far as I could see):
http://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/topic.as ... hichpage=4
Sid Haywoode – Second Time Around ’88
Simon – Stay
---------------
(14) bands mentioned by Water7 on page 5, but not eliminated (as far as I could see):
http://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/topic.as ... hichpage=5
Heat - "Stay"...only 7 " but i don´t know the year
Klaus Peter Schöpfer - "Please stay" 1988
Truth - "Second time " 1984 on the LP "Five live"
Wall of Vodoo - "Hollywood the second time"
Honeymoon Suite - "Stay" Toronto Studios Canada
Killer - "Stay with me" from the LP "Stronger than ever" 1984 Franfurt/Offenbach Germany
Blue Lazer - "Stay away from her" Rams Horn 1984
Joy - "Wanna make you stay" 1985
Hot House - "Don't come to stay" 1986 BMG ARIOLA HAMBURG
April May - "If you want me to stay"1987 WEA HAMBURG
Joe Mooney - "Second time around" Canada
Sweetness - "No second time around"
View from a Hill "Turn out the light" 1986 on the record "IN Time" - composed by Patrick Patterson!
LEE FARDON "TURN OUT THE LIGHT" 1983 on the record "The god given right"


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You can eliminate Honeymoon Suite "Stay" from Water7's list on page 5 too.
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Postby glokstadt » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:02 am

^^^ Nice work Panorama! [:D] ^^^

Yes, adding as a video response, sorry I didn't remember the correct verbage last night... [:p]



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Postby Panorama » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:49 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by empinball[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Panorama[/i]
(2) bands mentioned by MarekMM on page 4, but not eliminated (as far as I could see):
http://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/topic.as ... hichpage=4
Sid Haywoode – Second Time Around ’88
Simon – Stay
---------------
(14) bands mentioned by Water7 on page 5, but not eliminated (as far as I could see):
http://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/topic.as ... hichpage=5
Heat - "Stay"...only 7 " but i don´t know the year
Klaus Peter Schöpfer - "Please stay" 1988
Truth - "Second time " 1984 on the LP "Five live"
Wall of Voodoo - "Hollywood the second time"
Honeymoon Suite - "Stay" Toronto Studios Canada
Killer - "Stay with me" from the LP "Stronger than ever" 1984 Franfurt/Offenbach Germany
Blue Lazer - "Stay away from her" Rams Horn 1984
Joy - "Wanna make you stay" 1985
Hot House - "Don't come to stay" 1986 BMG ARIOLA HAMBURG
April May - "If you want me to stay"1987 WEA HAMBURG
Joe Mooney - "Second time around" Canada
Sweetness - "No second time around"
View from a Hill "Turn out the light" 1986 on the record "IN Time" - composed by Patrick Patterson!
LEE FARDON "TURN OUT THE LIGHT" 1983 on the record "The god given right"


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[/quote]

You can eliminate Honeymoon Suite "Stay" from Water7's list on page 5 too.
[/quote]I don't see anyone who has ruled out Honeymoon Suite since Water7 mentioned them in his list (on page 5), unless you are the person who is verifying that it is not Honeymoon Suite? -- if that's the case, I'll add them to the eliminated list.

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Postby Yachtingtype » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:23 am

It's definitely not Honeymoon Suite.
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Postby schwenko » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:08 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Yachtingtype[/i]
<br>It's definitely not Honeymoon Suite.
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agreed[8D]
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Postby Yachtingtype » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:08 pm

I found this 12" single on eBay and it looks interesting enough.

http://cgi.ebay.com/12-Italo-Disco-STAG ... dZViewItem

Anyone want to take a chance on this? I e-mailed the seller asking for a sound clip but have not heard back from him yet. If no one wants to risk it, I will buy it.
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Postby Panorama » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:21 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Yachtingtype[/i]
<br>I found this 12" single on eBay and it looks interesting enough.

http://cgi.ebay.com/12-Italo-Disco-STAG ... dZViewItem

Anyone want to take a chance on this? I e-mailed the seller asking for a sound clip but have not heard back from him yet. If no one wants to risk it, I will buy it.[/quote]It says in the auction the record is from 1988. Our mystery song is from either 1984 or 1986.

Why ask them for a sound clip? Just ask them to confirm if their record is the same as our clip -- less energy from everyone that way -- if it is the same, the record will sell to someone here, if not, then someone else will purchase the record (there is one bid at the moment).

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