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Postby coop41 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:27 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by ghosty[/i]
<br>I never expect anything but business as usual in Washington no matter who's President.[}:)]
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Yep. They're all douchebags out for themselves. Anyone believing differently is lying to themselves.
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100% agreement. welcome back
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Postby MetaMatrix » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:16 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
Anyone believing differently is lying to themselves.
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well ... that means that all people who've ever voted - no matter for whom in the end - are "lying to themselves" ! [}:)]

that's "democracy" , isn't it !? [:p]
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Postby ghosty » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:24 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by MetaMatrix[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
Anyone believing differently is lying to themselves.
[/quote]

well ... that means that all people who've ever voted - no matter for whom in the end - are "lying to themselves" ! [}:)]

that's "democracy" , isn't it !? [:p]
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Not if they broke out of the make believe right/left paradigm.
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Postby MetaMatrix » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:02 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by ghosty[/i]
Not if they broke out of the make believe right/left paradigm.
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so voting for somebody else than for one of "the big 2" would chance something in your opinion then [?]

in other countries than the u.s. it may indeed change something , but in the u.s. it's as useless as not voting @ all , if u want to make a change , as NOBODY that is not a candidate of the republicans or the democrates will EVER win an election in the u.s. as long as the current status quo of the election process will remain as such ! *sigh*

the day somebody else will win & become president of the u.s. will indeed be a real change , but i don't see this happening during the next 12 or even more years , sorry !
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Postby ghosty » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:45 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by MetaMatrix[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by ghosty[/i]
Not if they broke out of the make believe right/left paradigm.
[/quote]

so voting for somebody else than for one of "the big 2" would chance something in your opinion then [?]

in other countries than the u.s. it may indeed change something , but in the u.s. it's as useless as not voting @ all , if u want to make a change , as NOBODY that is not a candidate of the republicans or the democrates will EVER win an election in the u.s. as long as the current status quo of the election process will remain as such ! *sigh*

the day somebody else will win & become president of the u.s. will indeed be a real change , but i don't see this happening during the next 12 or even more years , sorry !
[/quote]

I agree. It will take time as more and more people are wake up to how corrupt the two party system is. That doesn't mean a smaller party isn't corrupt or wouldn't be corrupted but a realistic choice other than the "big 2" (which is really the the "big 1" as far as I'm concerned) would bode well for our country. Sadly with the deteriorating economy the viabilty of a smaller party getting more attention might happen sooner than 12 years. I wish it could be under different cirumstances.[:(]
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Postby enzfan » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:19 am

Secretary Of Health And Human Services nominee II Gov. Kathleen Sebelius admits to a tax error and repays it. You'd think by now this administration would get this tax thing investigated throughly before nominating.
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