More Barry BS

[eight6]

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Wayne[/i]
<br>Sorry but I am forced to recite the following famous quote:

Fighting on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard.
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Didn't you leave this section? Or do I have you confused with someone else? Wait ... who are you again?
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Firstly, who's "fighting"? I'd call it a somewhat heated debate. Secondly, the only retard in sight may be the one who posted the above quote. Thirdly, see you in the Obscure 80s section later.

[SallyLightfoot]

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>Hmmm...so you can be guilty of publishing baseless "facts", yet Motors is to be condemned by you for what you perceive to be the same practice? Very convenient.[/quote]Nah, the freudian analysis was just part of the "rattling" I mentioned, and it turned out to have exactly that effect, apparently.[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>"...rattle you guys"...yeah, I'm rattled.[/quote]Seriously, it surprised me too. I'll try to tone it down a bit. [:D]

[eight6]

[quote][i]Originally posted by SallyLightfoot[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>Hmmm...so you can be guilty of publishing baseless "facts", yet Motors is to be condemned by you for what you perceive to be the same practice? Very convenient.[/quote]Nah, the freudian analysis was just part of the "rattling" I mentioned, and it turned out to have exactly that effect, apparently.[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>"...rattle you guys"...yeah, I'm rattled.[/quote]Seriously, it surprised me too. I'll try to tone it down a bit. [:D]
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Looks like you'll be crowned King of the Retards...congratulations, an honor well deserved.

[SallyLightfoot]

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
The only rattling here is the rattling of the walls of my house due to my laughter every time IT makes another inane post.[/quote]
Really, I thought that rattling was the laugh-track to your claim that you voted for a democrat for 4 of the 5 past presidential elections. You're an anti-tax, anti-government, misanthropic <a href="http://politicsplusstuff.blogspot.com/2008/08/definition-of-glibertarian.html" target="_new">glibertarian</a>, so this is [i]incongruous[/i].

In the 2008 election, you claim to have voted for Ron Paul-- who was only on the general ballot in Montana and Louisiana. Going purely with the odds, I'm thinking you're not a resident of either of those fine states. Nonetheless, if what you've stated is true, a few points:
<blockquote><ol><li>Motors holds negative opinions about black people. (I'm being charitable)</li><li>Motors voted consistently for democratic presidential candidates until the 2008 election. (Allegedly)</li><li>In 2008, Barack Obama, a black candidate, wins the democratic nomination.</li><li>Motors votes for... Ron Paul. (Somehow)</li></ol></blockquote>I'd be interested to know if you voted against Obama primarily or partly based on his race. As an independent, free-thinking artist living his values in his own moral universe, I'm sure you wouldn't mind responding candidly.

[i_like_lectric_motors]

[quote][i]Originally posted by SallyLightfoot[/i]

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Fine. I'll answer honestly because I honestly don't care in the slightest if you or anyone else has a problem with any of my beliefs or opinions. I hope you feel as foolish as you look to the rest of us once you realize your snide little parenthetical commentary wasn't necessary. All you had to do was ask.

1. Motors holds negative opinions about black people. (I'm being charitable)

TRUE. Not all, certainly ... but a damned good percentage of them. I think anyone who is honest with themselves would answer the same way, including intelligent black people. Do I need to start posting the ALMIGHTY IN THE EYES OF SALLY links to statistics on crime ... or test score differentials ... or public assistance statistics, etc. ... or can you be equally as honest as I am and just admit there are reasons to feel this way. I am far from the ridiculous caricature of a Klansman you would portray me as in your attempts to make your feeble arguments look better and I know this is a standard claim by the "I'm not racist" crowd, but I do have some black friends (yes, even in Vermont) and they know exactly where I stand. I expect more from people in general, whether black or white or any other color and when one race's failings are as abundant as those of the black race, it's just tough shit if I choose to call them to task for it.

2. Motors voted consistently for democratic presidential candidates until the 2008 election. (Allegedly)

TRUE. 100%, no bullshit. At those points in time, I agreed more with their positions.

3. In 2008, Barack Obama, a black candidate, wins the democratic nomination.

TRUE but I would have voted for Paul no matter who won the Democratic nomination and I've been on record here as saying so since the very beginning.

4. Motors votes for... Ron Paul. (Somehow)

For someone as familiar with the election process as you claim to be, you show an amazing lack of knowledge of a simple thing called a "write-in".

[i_like_lectric_motors]

"Sally" thinks harder and harder, trying to dig itself out:

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What next, genius? Are you going to try to prove I've been known to smoke pot on occasion? Or maybe that I think THE COLOUR FIELD suck? Or that I want to do Jessica Biel? Let's see what you got now [:D][:D]

[eight6]

No king is properly presented without his crown:

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[SallyLightfoot]

Motors-- thanks for your reply. You answered my questions and I appreciate it.

As far as a write-in ballot is concerned, it's a wasted vote, so it makes little sense that you would do that, considering that Ron himself downplayed it (Paul: "I don’t think that's very productive."). You could write 'Mickey Mouse' on the ballot and it would be counted similarly. Sources: (<a href="http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-05/ron-pauls-election-results/" target="_new1">here</a> and <a href="http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/pages/writein.html" target="_new2">here</a>)

I can see now that my impression of you has not been accurate. All along I [i]thought[/i] you were little more than a colostomy-bag carrier for the right wing. But I was wrong, [i]painfully wrong[/i] (well, apart from the fact that Ron Paul and libertarians are right wing...). And while there are still troubling signs of misanthropy and a racist streak a mile wide, I think that somehow just proves your point even more. But setting that aside, what remains is-- I think-- a Motors that just about anyone could admire, in a very real sense, but not the kind at risk for police entrapment.

Your other admissions don't interest me, but I do appreciate your open-book policy-- even though your book is filled with pictures of baby zoo animals, and I've read it like a zillion times already.

[i_like_lectric_motors]

[quote][i]Originally posted by SallyLightfoot[/i]
<br>Motors-- thanks for your reply. You answered my questions and I appreciate it.

As far as a write-in ballot is concerned, it's a wasted vote, so it makes little sense that you would do that, considering that Ron himself downplayed it (Paul: "I don’t think that's very productive."). You could write 'Mickey Mouse' on the ballot and it would be counted similarly. Sources: (<a href="http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-05/ron-pauls-election-results/" target="_new1">here</a> and <a href="http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/pages/writein.html" target="_new2">here</a>)

I can see now that my impression of you has not been accurate. All along I [i]thought[/i] you were little more than a colostomy-bag carrier for the right wing. But I was wrong, [i]painfully wrong[/i] (well, apart from the fact that Ron Paul and libertarians are right wing...). And while there are still troubling signs of misanthropy and a racist streak a mile wide, I think that somehow just proves your point even more. But setting that aside, what remains is-- I think-- a Motors that just about anyone could admire, in a very real sense, but not the kind at risk for police entrapment.

Your other admissions don't interest me, but I do appreciate your open-book policy-- even though your book is filled with pictures of baby zoo animals, and I've read it like a zillion times already.

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I do know mine (and that of the 1463 other Vermonters who voted the same)was a wasted vote and that Paul himself thought so, but in my eyes the other two candidates were more of a waste of my vote and I can't live with not voting at all. So you see Sally, rather than voting only to try to harm Obama by throwing my support behind the only opponent who had a snowball's chance in Hell to beat him, I chose to stick with the person I felt best represented me. Well, not that anyone ever really represents me but the least objectionable choice if you catch my drift.

Thanks for the rest of your post ... well, except for the zoo animals thing [:D]. I'll live with the misanthropy and racism tags. To me it's more important to be honest than nice and correct and approved of by everyone. And hey, I'm sure we'll agree on some far left approved position soon enough. [:0]

[SallyLightfoot]

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
I do know mine (and that of the 1463 other Vermonters who voted the same)was a wasted vote and that Paul himself thought so, but in my eyes the other two candidates were more of a waste of my vote and I can't live with not voting at all. So you see Sally, rather than voting only to try to harm Obama by throwing my support behind the only opponent who had a snowball's chance in Hell to beat him, I chose to stick with the person I felt best represented me. Well, not that anyone ever really represents me but the least objectionable choice if you catch my drift.

Thanks for the rest of your post ... well, except for the zoo animals thing [:D]. I'll live with the misanthropy and racism tags. To me it's more important to be honest than nice and correct and approved of by everyone. And hey, I'm sure we'll agree on some far left approved position soon enough. [:0][/quote]Ah f***, you're taking the high-road. Yet again I didn't see that one coming. Thanks for making it hard for me to demonize you. There's a lesson in there somewhere, and once I find it, damned if I ain't gonna beat Eight6 over the head with it.[:D]

[djcraig]

[quote][i]Originally posted by SallyLightfoot[/i]

Telling people how to live (i.e., family values, values voting) is the domain of the right-wing.
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Oh fuck that was a good one, now my stomach hurts!

Next you're gonna tell me that all the Left wants is to do is guard our freedoms and not regulate every possible aspect of our lives.

Keep it up and you'll be headlining at The Improv soon!




<a href="http://www.djcraig.net/los_angeles_dj">DJ Craig</a>

[marie3]

[quote][i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by SallyLightfoot[/i]

Telling people how to live (i.e., family values, values voting) is the domain of the right-wing.
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Oh fuck that was a good one, now my stomach hurts!

Next you're gonna tell me that all the Left wants is to do is guard our freedoms and not regulate every possible aspect of our lives.

Keep it up and you'll be headlining at The Improv soon!




<a href="http://www.djcraig.net/los_angeles_dj">DJ Craig</a>


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Our freedoms need some guarding after the last eight years. I don't expect the people who put us where we are now to get us out of the hole they dug for us.

[Wayne]

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
... who are you again?
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I want to tell you...I will not be responding to any more posts...peace and love, peace and love...I mean, I like 'lectric motors, I like 'lectric motors...

[SallyLightfoot]

[b]djcraig[/b]: "Next you're gonna tell me that all the Left wants is to do is guard our freedoms and not regulate every possible aspect of our lives."

Can you tell me more specifically what you mean by the left "regulating every possible aspect of our lives"? Maybe give examples? That way I don't waste time responding, only to discover that you didn't know what you meant either.
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><!-- DJCRAIG IS A SCHMEG --><tr><td align="center">[b]Left[/b]</td><td align="center">[b]Right[/b]</td></tr><tr><td>Pro consumer protections & worker safety</td><td>Pro corporate profits and lax enforcement</td></tr><tr><td>Welfare for needy, sick/injured, elderly</td><td>Corporate welfare only</td></tr><tr><td>Pro regulation of energy markets</td><td>ENRON-style markets for energy & everything else</td></tr>
<tr><td>Pro-environmental regulation</td><td>Lax regulation and corp honor system</td></tr><tr><td>Pro-food/drug testing</td><td>Expedited testing, anti-food labels</td></tr><tr><td>Pro-FISA court</td><td>Warrantless wiretapping</td></tr><tr><td>Anti nat'l ID card, preemptive arrest, indefinite detention, torture</td><td>Pro-Patriot Act, nat'l database, no-fly lists, anti-habeas corpus, pro-torture</td></tr><tr><td>Pro-financial regulation</td><td>Pro Wall St laissez-faire</td></tr><tr><td>Pro-public schools</td><td>Pro-private schools and vouchers</td></tr><tr><td>All citizens are equal before the law, regardless of class/race</td><td>Police, military, govt contractors and (GOP) officials are above the law</td></tr><tr><td>Favor a woman's right to choose</td><td>Anti-choice, or states should decide</td></tr><tr><td>Think it's wrong to bring weapons to town hall mtgs</td><td>Support arrest of wearers of anti-Bush t-shirts or public protestors</td></tr><tr><td>Govt should not intervene in end-of-life decisions</td><td>Terry Schiavo case</td></tr></table>

[i_like_lectric_motors]

Just out of curiosity, Sally - how many of those in the left column do you agree with? I'm 7/10.