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Postby toyah » Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:09 am

i see a thread and a crack at dj crack, not an attack,which was long overdue after his stalker-ish tendancy to drop in uninvited on various posts of mine to make snarky comments;
one good crack deserves another, donchathink?
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Postby SomebodySomewhere » Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:42 am

"I have a wide stance when going to the bathroom."
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Postby toyah » Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:52 am

baby got back....
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Postby Frank_Chickens » Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:48 am

After reading the top link SS posted, I would like to apologise about my comment on Juluka. It was wrong of me to be dismissive of them and after reading up on them I have nothing but admiration for what Johnny Cleg did under the horror that was Apartheid.
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Postby toyah » Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:51 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juluka

and the following is taken from John Craig's 'label history" on the Safari Records site, in regard to Juluka;


"The label was also iconoclastic and quite prepared to do battle with powerful bodies. In 1982 our South African licensee brought a video of Juluka into the office. Juluka was the first racially mixed South African band formed by two life long friends, activist Johnny Clegg and Zulu Sipho Mchunu. For me it was to be not only the start of a business relationship but also of a close friendship that has lasted until this day. Johnny is the son of an English RAF officer and a Zimbabwean record plugger in the South African music business. Long divorced, Johnny’s father had moved back to Manchester. Sipho worked as a gardener near Johnny’s home. He and the schoolboy Johnny became close friends through their love of the Zulu guitar, which Johnny had been taught to play by Charlie Mzila, a house cleaner. Later, as Johnny and Sipho, they managed to secure a record contract to be produced by Hilton Rosenthal, their long time producer and now my close friend and our licensee in Australia.



They subsequently became Juluka – the Zulu word for ‘sweat’ – and their music was a South African and Western fusion with hidden political lyrics. Ever in trouble with the authorities and the apartheid system they refused to perform to segregated audiences. We thought they were great and released their first album “Scatterlings” and the single “Scatterlings of Africa” which made the UK charts. We were determined to get them into the UK to perform but the British Musicians' Union had instigated a cultural boycott against anything coming out of South Africa, and the Home Office always consulted with the union before granting work permits. Johnny had a British passport – no problems there – but there seemed no chance for the others despite their being the 'Bob Dylan of South Africa' with their protest songs against the government. As Johnny would often comment it was a double apartheid.



But this was Mrs.Thatcher’s Britain where government did not defer to the unions. We were the beneficiaries, for quite unexpectedly Juluka became the first South African act to be granted work permits by the Home Office since the 60s, and this despite powerful opposition from the M.U. I was interviewed on BBC Radio 4 “The World at One” – until then our horizons had never reached further than Radio 1. When we eventually got the group into London, the unions, still following blindly – even colour blindly – the letter of the cultural boycott, fought an unyielding rearguard action. They managed to frighten some television companies into cancelling projected appearances by the group, but these were replaced by others. Tony, dubbed the ‘money man’ by Sipho and now surrounded at his serviced apartment block in Chelsea by Zulus and South Africans lodged in flats adjoining his own, would breakfast and drive in with the group every morning for a daily Council of War held at our Seymour Place offices, at which we all devised ways to rubbish the opposition. We found our daily news releases well received by a very supportive press and Johnny and Sipho welcomed to TV and radio interviews by a media happy to spotlight a patent absurdity. It was an exciting time…



Juluka went on to have a minor hit in the UK, but were hugely successful in Europe – especially in France – where they received a platinum record. They were the catalyst for Paul Simon’s “Graceland”, and Paul includes the term ‘Scatterlings’ in the lyrics of “Call Me Al”, one of the tracks on the album. Sipho’s royalties enabled him to build a school and bring running water to his village in KwaZulu, and Johnny remains a major star both internationally and in the new South Africa."
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Postby SomebodySomewhere » Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:42 pm

I recently bought "Urgh! A Music War!" on DVD from the Warner Archive. Does anyone know what's the phone number to complain to Warner Bros. about it? I just found out the DVD release is edited and I am really ticked off. Oh, I'm fine that it's edited; no, I'm just mad that Toyah was left in!
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Postby toyah » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:22 am

maybe you stuck it in your vhs player the wrong way whilst wearing your sunglasses at nite, dear...
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Postby Spectre General » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:56 am

You leave Corey Hart out of this.

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Postby toyah » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:25 am

i luv the Corey Hart story about Boy George trying to pick him up in the early 80s..
George saw Hart wandering in the outside area of the arena ,rolled down the window and demanded he get in the vehicle;
Hart identified himself and told George that he was opening act for Culture Club, to which George replied, "I don't know or care who you are, just get in the limo!"
according to Hart, he politely declined...
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Postby TragicMagic » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:26 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by toyah[/i]
<br>i luv the Corey Hart story about Boy George trying to pick him up in the early 80s..
George saw Hart wandering in the outside area of the arena ,rolled down the window and demanded he get in the vehicle;
Hart identified himself and told George that he was opening act for Culture Club, to which George replied, "I don't know or care who you are, just get in the limo!"
according to Hart, he politely declined...
[/quote]

he vowed to Never Surrender hismelf? [^]

(ok.. that was bad)
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Postby Frank_Chickens » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:13 pm

I've heard worse TM! [:D]
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Postby SomebodySomewhere » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:22 pm

Me too. From "toyah." Every time it posts.

Has anyone heard anything about a new Toyah album? Wouldn't it be neat if she recorded a "Toyah: Then and Now" album? Featuring rerecorded versions of all her non-hits? Unclassics such as "Old Bird in Flight," "I Want to Be Feminine," "Obsolete Pop 'Star' " and the immortal "Empty Space Between the Ears."
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Postby toyah » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:17 am

you sound like a sexually frustrated Hazel O Connor fan...
and the 'new' Toyah album is actually by The Humans, with Bill Rieflen of R.E.M. and her husband Robert Fripp..they're doing select UK dates in the spring,and both Classic Rock and the current issue of Record Collector Magazine("Toyah Story!",with the same graphics as "Toy Story",don't tell the Disney people) contain great full color features on the latest Toya-ctivity!
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