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Postby Jimbo L » Sat May 15, 2004 12:40 pm

"Death to Disco" and "Wipeout" by Jimi Lalumia & the Psychotic Frogs both appear on a compilation CD titled "Something in the Water: The Secret History of Long Island Punk." This CD is not easy to find these days.
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Postby toyah » Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:51 am

Jayne County recently played a series of shows in the UK; did anyone go?
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Postby firefall » Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:00 am

As i have written again,how great artist for me is Wayne/Jayne County,i'd like to give some information about some of the bands,she/he names in''Live at Max's Kansas city'' compilation.
Fast-New York based bubblegum-punk band,with a very special sound and two albums between 1979 and 1981.The first one produced by Ric Ocasek and two of the three Zone brothers created the succeded techno duo of Man to Man in mid eightees.
Mumps-Theatrical punk rock band from L.A,with main members Kristian Hoffman(wrote''total eclipse of the heart'' of Klaus Nomi) and strong, self-destructive singer Lance Loud.There was a cd compilation of early demos and live recordings named ''Fatal charm''from Mumps, now very rare.Hoffman still records great underrated operetic pop albums.
Another Pretty Face-Totally obscure,absolutely glam rock band with the album''face facts''in mid seventees.Musically they were somewhere between Bowie and Cockney Rebel.
Marbles,Planets-underground,speedy rock n' roll bandsin New York Dolls,Stones vein, famous for their chaotic live shows in max's.
Fuse-The only interest for Fuse could be based in its members Tom Petterson and Rick Nielsen,before the Cheap Trick legacy and not in their boring proggy organ-driven rock.
Miamis-Only known for their participation in''Live at CBGB's'' compilation,a totally ignored one, in my opinion.
Just Water-Pre-punk hard rock band,with strong guitars and a manic singer.Somewhere between Dust,Ramones and MC5.
Really strange bands,underground names and what a taste County had!!
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Postby 2Nu » Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:51 am

Damn my ignorance!
I did a double take and had to see what relevance the Back Street Boys had to Wayne County!
as well as the GNW80's forum[B)]
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Postby dtradio » Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:17 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Ollie Stench[/i]
<br>I'm a huge Wayne/Jayne fan. She was supposed to play here this month but the booking got mixed up. My band was slotted to open and I was so psyched I almost shat myself.

I read her book a few years ago and found it very interesting. Being a straight white male I didn't identify with the transgender aspect, but as a fan of NYC punk rock I was enthralled page after page.

And as she points out in the book physically she still is technically "Wayne".
[/quote]
If you see John Cameron Mitchell's film (or play) "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" you will notice far too many coincidences, including the apparently botched operation.
It's not surprising that Jayne County seems quite pissed about Mitchell's success.
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Postby DavidRavenMoon » Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:24 am

I saw Wayne County play at West Orange High, in West Orange NJ back in the 70's! They were just a local band playing at a high school "dance." I always remembered the banner with their name on it, so years later when Jayne County came out I said... hey! I remember her/him!

Another funny thing was seeing Twisted Sister play at Dodd's in Orange, NJ... they were one of the regular bands at the time. In 1976 they did a bicentennial show (sans Dee, who had left the band) and they all wore red, white and blue striped hot pants! It was quite funny!
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Postby DavidRavenMoon » Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:37 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by jetboy[/i]
<br>The names Wayne County reels off in the song are;
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Another Pretty Face
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T. Roth and Another Pretty Face! I had forgotten all about them. Cool band... kind of like Roxy Music. In the mid-to-late 70's I was playing in this band Dreamer, and we used to play with them all the time in NJ/NY. The drummer from APF was Tico Torres of Bon Jovi fame. He was really skinny, wore tight black leather, had this really big black afro, and played drums sitting totally stiff, with just his arms moving!

For any Uncle Floyd fans out there, the keyboard player from Dreamer was/is none other than Charlie Stoddard, who has resurrected the band.
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Postby DavidRavenMoon » Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:42 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by firefall[/i]
<br>Just Water-Pre-punk hard rock band,with strong guitars and a manic singer.Somewhere between Dust,Ramones and MC5.[/quote]

Was it Just Water that did the punk version of Singing in the Rain?

Wow, that shook some cobwebs loose!
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Postby Ollie Stench » Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:30 am

Probably not the version you're thinking of, but DOA did a cover of Singing In the Rain on their 1986 album "Let's Wreck The Party".
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Postby DavidRavenMoon » Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:34 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Ollie Stench[/i]
<br>Probably not the version you're thinking of, but DOA did a cover of Singing In the Rain on their 1986 album "Let's Wreck The Party".
[/quote]

OK I looked them up at TrouserPress.com:

[b]JUST WATER[/b]
The Riff (Branded) 1977

These Who-influenced Brooklynites made their homebrew LP a year before causing some international excitement with their rocked-up single of "Singing in the Rain," which almost became the first new wave indie hit in the US. The Riff displays solid yet subtle guitars'n'drums rock, but is shackled by clumsy lyrics and poor vocals. Talented but unrealized, Just Water broke up around 1979.

Ah... I do have some memory left after all! [:D]
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Postby schwenko » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:56 pm

Here's a picture of Wayne/Jayne and Patti Smith from a long, long time ago{:

http://www.postmodern.com/~fi/pattipics ... elpost.htm
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Postby WolverineSyr » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:42 pm

I'm amazed by the number of drag queens and transgender people who made it big & semi-big in punk & new wave - Jayne/Wayne, Boy George, Pete Burns, and Marilyn. I've always been partial to Divine though.
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Postby Ollie Stench » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:07 am

It was probably the first time a "movement" accepted them. Prior to Punk/New Wave the drag queens were relegated to the gay bars. For a scene that was orignally based on shock value (punk) and a scene that valued creativity above all (New Wave) the cross-dressers fit right in.
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Postby WolverineSyr » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:04 am

You're absolutely right. I love how everyone was accepted. It seems that before punk/new wave, cross-dressing was done for shock value, to portray a character, or as a lark - Rolling Stones, David Bowie, etc. I suppose New york Dolls & the glam movement set the stage.
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Postby toyah » Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:46 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by dtradio[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Ollie Stench[/i]
<br>I'm a huge Wayne/Jayne fan. She was supposed to play here this month but the booking got mixed up. My band was slotted to open and I was so psyched I almost shat myself.

I read her book a few years ago and found it very interesting. Being a straight white male I didn't identify with the transgender aspect, but as a fan of NYC punk rock I was enthralled page after page.

And as she points out in the book physically she still is technically "Wayne".
[/quote]
If you see John Cameron Mitchell's film (or play) "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" you will notice far too many coincidences, including the apparently botched operation.
It's not surprising that Jayne County seems quite pissed about Mitchell's success.
[/quote]
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