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by **WoodlandParkPunk** » Fri May 21, 2004 6:10 am

I like them both. I saw them on the Lollapoloza tour in 92' and they were powerful. but I also really enjoy the Sympathy' CD. They are an excellent example to the powers of hard drugs.

Website · by **thefxc** » Fri May 21, 2004 6:34 am

They are an excellent example to the powers of hard drugs--specifically, how then can completely obliterate one's talent. Ministry records got progressively worthless with the more junk Al put up his arm.

Personally, I think their strongest period was

by **Sean** » Fri May 21, 2004 7:19 am

Which one is better to get? Twitch the original cd release or Twitch the reissue? I love the With Sympathy album but not too much a fan of their later stuff. Please advise.

by **MikeP** » Fri May 21, 2004 7:59 am

Tough call on which version of TWITCH to get. On one hand, I miss "All Day (Remix)" on the TWITCH(ed) reissue, but I like having the remastered sound on the other tracks (plus the unreleased material). Both versions contain the excellent "Over the Shoulde

by **ebbhead** » Fri May 21, 2004 8:02 am

That's like asking a parent to pick which child they love most. I love them ALL the SAME.

Actually, I have a specific fondness for their synth pop and trasitional experimental phase.

Sean - I'd recommend getting the Twitch re-issue since it's been

by **ekahob** » Fri May 21, 2004 12:14 pm

Didn't Al Jourgenson eventually distance himself from "With Sympathy" calling it a learning experience and an embarrasment? I also heard that Arista had a lot of input into it and that pissed him off. Despite this I have always liked this record, especi

by **skinnytie** » Sat May 22, 2004 1:32 am

I had seen Ministry at Irving Plaza in NY before "Twitch" had been released (the songs "All Day" and "Everyday is Halloween" had already come out) and I was not prepared for what I saw or heard. At this time, I hadn't known about Al's utter hatred for th

by **Sean** » Sat May 22, 2004 4:46 am

Thanks for the recommendations guys. I think I'm going to lean towards getting the reissue since I already have the 12" cd with All Day. Take care.

Sean

by **randy** » Sat May 22, 2004 8:43 am

Saw Ministry shortly after With Sympathy was released at the Living Room. Very dissappointed. Only on stage about 40 minutes.

...still love "Revenge" though.

by **dead_irony@yahoo.com** » Sun May 23, 2004 2:32 am

I used Ministry in a paper in college for a class about Rock Music and American Cultural History. I wrote about how "Stigmata" was an incredible form of emotional release for me and my friends in high school. I got an A. So I guess I will love Ministry fo

by **sunroofcuda** » Sun May 23, 2004 11:05 pm

I obviously loved the video for "Jesus Built My Hotrod." Also loved the T-Shirt for the same. But as some have mentioned before me, music almost completely devoid of well..........music. The only music I've ever heard that one could absolutely not foll

by **gilson80boy** » Mon May 24, 2004 8:32 am

If I had to pick my one, and only one, favorite CDs of all my 3000 80s CDs, it would be the With Sympathy CD, hands down my all time fav....it's amazing!!. I still remember the day I bought the vinyl record...Springfield Mall.....back in the day.

by **KYYX4ever** » Tue May 25, 2004 4:31 am

"With Sympathy", no two ways about it. Classic 80's, catchy as heck, cheesy synths...too bad they didn't put out more of that yummy electronica. but i do know how much Al hated it...sigh....

by **WoodlandParkPunk** » Tue May 25, 2004 5:00 am

Springfield Mall?? What state?

by **cementkite** » Thu May 27, 2004 3:23 am

Remember an early single called "Cold life"? It was before With Sympathy.

I liked early Ministry better. After "Holloween", I did not follow them much. Their drummer Stephen George played on Ric Ocasek's first solo album "Beatitude", in '82 I believe.

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