What is the appeal of Goth??

[zeopold]

[quote]Originally posted by WoodlandParkPunk
[br]Just curious. It just seems so depressing and lonely.
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What is now known as 'goth' derives from bands that were labelled 'positive punk' or 'post punk' at the time.

Among my favourites were;

Killing Joke
Bauhaus
UK Decay
Southern Death Cult / Death Cult
Play Dead
March Violets
Sisters of Mercy
Sex Gang Children
Theatre of Hate

Great bands, great times. Not in the slightest depressing or lonely as I recall.

Of course, what is now known as 'goth' is very sad and lame.

[CodyK46]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Ollie Stench[/i]
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And I never understood why people would call The Cure a goth band. "Love Cats" invalidates any goth leanings they may have had!
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They did LoveCats to not be called Goth. Japanese Whispers is indeed a great album, and to me, Lovecats isn't really a song I like. Upstairs Room and The Walk are 2 songs that got me hooked on The Cure.

[Ollie Stench]

Here's the playlist from last night's show. We usually play hardcore and punk, but since it was Halloween I figured a bit of Goth was in order:

Radio Riot
10-31-05
Halloween Edition

Siouxsie & the Banshees - Halloween
Bauhaus - Bela Lugossi's Dead

Sisters Of Mercy - Temple Of Love
Sator Codex - Fete For Lost Souls

The Cure - The Hanging Garden

Christian Death - Ten Hundred Thousand Times
Classix Nouveaux - The Protector Of Night

Joy Division - Atmosphere
Kommunity FK - Something Inside Me Has Died
Skeletal Family - She Cries Alone

The Veil - Love In A Dieing World

Morticia - Darksider
Heathen - Twilight
Astral Grey - Canary In The Labrinth

Ghostdance - River Of No Return
The March Violets - Radiant Boys
Burning Image - Burning Image, Burning

Specimen - The Beauty Of Poisin
Medicine Factory - Sympathy For The Devil
Ex-Post Facto - Dancing Child
The Hail Mary - The Quiet Way To Paradise
The Fur Bible - Headbolt

interspersed with selections from www.gothpoetry.com

I wanted to slit my wrists by the end of the show!

[ExRat]

Growing up, we never called the "goths" either. There really wasn't a name for them then, although they certainly were around. We usually called them "drones", "death-heads", or "spooks". They seemed to be a lot more fun back then as well, not so regimeted in their misery and standardized uniforms as the goth kids are now. I was quasi-"spooky" as a teen...I certainly had the depressive thing down...and could out-pale any decent albino around.

[waukena]

I certainly was never considered Goth, I was a straight ahead Punk, but in a dark club on a dark night when the smoke and blue lights hit the dance floor and you had just enough things in your system to make it all seem a dream, there was nothing better to dance to.
The Sisters 'This Corrosion' or 'Floorshow', Bauhaus 'Kick in the Eye' or 'Bela Lugosi's Dead' come to mind. Actually though, I think my favorite Bauhaus song to dance to was their absolutely killer version of 'Ziggy Stardust'
I think in its nature, the whole genre is very lush and sweeping, which makes it excellent club music.

[spicytaco]

goth isn't depressing at all... it's fun to listen to. i love lots of older stuff... some newer stuff. Diorama and Diary of Dreams (has more of an electronic edge to it too) are my favorite goth related artists ever.

[hutter]

Take this for what it's worth, and consider that this is coming from an ex jock: I don't get it, it seems pretty gay to me. But everyone has the right to like what they want to like. I get flack from friends for my love of electrofunk, but as long as I like it who cares, so party on my black clothes eyeliner wearing frilly shirt having brothers.[^]

[My Aural Stimulator]

Actually, very little about goth is gay. You may be confusing this genre with NRG.

[hutter]

What is NRG? Does it stand for new romantic goth (just a wild guess)?

[My Aural Stimulator]

High energy. Think: You Spin Me Round-soundalikes where everything is high-speed, disco-y and either sung by or catered to a gay crowd.

[CodyK46]

[quote][i]Originally posted by My Aural Stimulator[/i]
<br>High energy. Think: You Spin Me Round-soundalikes where everything is high-speed, disco-y and either sung by or catered to a gay crowd.
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What bands would be considered this. I am interested in hearing about groups that are considered NRG.

[joolian]

I think goth music is so graphic in your head, and the music draws darks and beautiful landfills in your head

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[EnochJ]

You know, what appeals to me about goth isn't so much the core bleakness or moodiness as much as the completely incidental sonic traits associated with it by happenstance: chimey, effected guitars, tons of reverb simulating a large chamber, layer upon layer of vocals. I do like the sense of the elegiac that the best goth inspires, but honestly I think my interest in the genre is at the level of a sonic fetish for me - e.g. completely particular and irrational.

[mygreen]

I think the term goth is on its way out and the term EMO is now being used. My 14 year old daughter had to give me an updated version of the language that is being said today. Also I am just curious if people who cut themesleves - "cutters" - are listening to this kind of music. Is there a link to the music? and did this happen in the 80's? This (cutting yourself) seems to be a big thing in the middle schools today.
Just curious.

[i_like_lectric_motors]

Goth and Emo are totally different. Some emo bands have goth influences
but musically they're more indie rock/punk than goth. Lyrically, they seem to be more obsessed with whining about their own emotions (hence the name) where goth is more about general doom and gloom.

I first heard about cutting in the late 80's/ early 90's. At first I think it was a goth thing but then got picked up later on by the Marilyn Manson/NIN fans (who are not goth, no matter how hard they try). I'm surprised it's still so widespread.