Vintage KROQ

[Wayne]

[quote][i]Originally posted by frisky99[/i]
<br>...I did in fact post the 1982 file from MykeC's collection....I will take the blame for this. I really should have asked MykeC if it was okay ... Sorry everybody, it won't happen again [B)][B)][B)]. I will also send MykeC an apology.
[/quote]

How could you do such a horrible thing? If I record something that I don't own the rights to and any of you fuckers download it, I'll expect an immediate apology OR ELSE! [:D]

[Lord Hasenpfeffer]

[quote][i]Originally posted by skygeex[/i]
I wish it wasn't such a "contest" to own and treasure these snipettes of radio history. My opinion is that it should all be freely shared and enjoyed. It once went over the air for free, and anyone could listen and capture it. Why should that change now? Just because someone put some effort into bringing them into the digital realm, I guess. Well, mucho kudos for the effort. Very much appreciated. Doesn't do much good, though, if one just hoardes it in preference to those select few who have something of interest to trade for it. I am sorry that I'm so musically destitute.
[/quote]

There is no contest to own these snippets of radio history.

It did indeed once go over the air for free and I am grateful to the people who did listen and capture it when they did.

Remember, the only way I even know about KROQ is by way of these recordings. I never heard a live KROQ broadcast until August 2005 when I visited a cousin in La Habra.

What I am most personally concerned about is keeping the collection together and keeping people aware of what they're receiving when they do. It's taken me literally years to remaster all of the tapes - and I'm told there is something close to 100 more tapes which have yet to be remastered.

I waited until I had a full DVD-R of 192kbps KROQ MP3s consistently named and populated with useful meta-data before I ever turned them loose as Christmas gifts to my friends and family last year. It was more than an effort to share the files. It was an effort to also distribute them together as a group.

I am clearly in a transitional phase right now between the way it used to be (before last year's DVD-R) and now.

I am open to creative ideas regarding how to go about keeping these files available as a set - not by hard and fast rule because that's beyond my control - but in the general spirit of the project. Perhaps all that's needed is a generally accepted form of "branding" so that people can easily know whether or not a file originates with my set.

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[Riff]

Hey Lunatic, You out there?
Just posted another wild ass Frazer Smith show. Thanks for the comment Bro!
Riff

[British]

Anybody on soulseek still that we can transfer these airchecks? I only have a handful, and I've already posted most of what I have on the comcast account.

[skygeex]

[quote]I am open to creative ideas regarding how to go about keeping these files available as a set - not by hard and fast rule because that's beyond my control - but in the general spirit of the project. Perhaps all that's needed is a generally accepted form of "branding" so that people can easily know whether or not a file originates with my set.[/quote]

Maybe it's nothing more complex than PayPal-ing you a few bucks (or mailing you a blank DVD-R in a postage-paid return bubble-pak) and having you dupe the disc, lable it as yours, and send it back to the requestor...all under a gentleman's agreement that it won't be duped again by the recipient. I'd go along with that, for sure. But if you really would like some reciprocal content, I'll have to see what I can muster (but I don't think it's going to be much).

-C

[New Wave Garth]

Just browsing this thread and listening to a bit of the KROQ stuff brings back great memories. I lived in Orange County for a couple of years in the mid-late 80s. Good times.

Salt Lake had a station that rivaled KROQ in terms of being a quality new wave station - KCGL in the beginning (hit the air waves in '81 until I want to say '84) then the format moved to KJQ.

SLC was a great place if one was into new wave. Sadly, grunge hit and KJQ has never been the same. Now, the alternative station isn't worth listening to (KENZ) but once in a rare while, it will do a weekend of nothing but the great 80s new wave.

If it weren't for satellite radio (both Sirius22 and Fred), I don't know what I'd do when in my vehicle.

[i]New Wave or nothing![/i]

[Riot Nrrrd™]

I'm gonna get pig-piled on for saying this, but I must:

KROQ has ALWAYS been crap.

Even in the late 70's.

The only thing that was ever GREAT about KROQ was Rodney.

I lived in Pasadena back then. I used to go by the station sometimes (when it was opposite the Hilton, in the little white building) to hang out during Rodney's shows.

Sure, brand me an elitist Punk Rocker if you like, that's OK.

I just have a different take than most, that's all. The fact that they played slightly more adventurous stuff than other stations across the nation never interested me - that was like saying "Well, at least cat sh-t is better than dog sh-t".

To me, a station that was in the spirit of early KROQ (but played much better music) was the late, lamented 103.1 MARS FM. (Long before it mutated into "Indie 103.1")

Just my $0.02 [:D]

Pigpile!

[djcraig]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Riot Nrrrd™[/i]
<br>I'm gonna get pig-piled on for saying this, but I must:

KROQ has ALWAYS been crap.

Even in the late 70's.

The only thing that was ever GREAT about KROQ was Rodney.

I lived in Pasadena back then. I used to go by the station sometimes (when it was opposite the Hilton, in the little white building) to hang out during Rodney's shows.

Sure, brand me an elitist Punk Rocker if you like, that's OK.

I just have a different take than most, that's all. The fact that they played slightly more adventurous stuff than other stations across the nation never interested me - that was like saying "Well, at least cat sh-t is better than dog sh-t".

To me, a station that was in the spirit of early KROQ (but played much better music) was the late, lamented 103.1 MARS FM. (Long before it mutated into "Indie 103.1")

Just my $0.02 [:D]

Pigpile!
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To call early KROQ crap is to negate the major influence that your hero, the terminally undermodulating Rodney, had on the entire station. His musical discoveries often carried over to heavy airplay from all the KROQ DJs and that meant major exposure for some very cool but formerly unknown bands.

Bingenheimer wasn't the only DJ on KROQ introducing cutting edge stuff based on his own personal taste. I think that DIY mindset was an integral part of the station and what helped make it great.

Have you tried KROQ lately? Now that's crap.

<a href="http://www.djcraig.net/los_angeles_dj">DJ Craig</a>

[motnow]

Vintage KROQ Tapes-Volume#41 (from 1993)
Here's Tape#41&42:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/203983075d357c62/


Say what you want about KROQ.
All I know is I loved that station in 1993.

Previously Posted:
Tape#40: http://www.zshare.net/audio/1894316289978981/
Tape#39: http://www.sendspace.com/file/akjgb39:
Tape#38: http://www.zshare.net/audio/184620278315a324/
Tape#37: http://www.sendspace.com/file/xjhq6r

[lunatic84]

quote: Maybe it's nothing more complex than PayPal-ing you a few bucks (or mailing you a blank DVD-R in a postage-paid return bubble-pak) and having you dupe the disc, lable it as yours, and send it back to the requestor...all under a gentleman's agreement that it won't be duped again by the recipient. I'd go along with that, for sure. But if you really would like some reciprocal content, I'll have to see what I can muster (but I don't think it's going to be much).

First of all I am only speaking for myself although I agree quite a bit with Skygeex on what he said about him “wishing it wasn’t such a contest”, etc, etc. Secondly, I’m as straight as an arrow but I know I can be a sentimental fool about certain things and what MykeC has (the collection of tapes from KROQ in the 80’s) is just an object to him to collect much like a vintage car. So, in a way, he has no true emotional attachment other than possessing something that very few have but many would want. As he admitted himself, he had never heard of KROQ until 1990. Me on the other hand, (and of course most of you guys) grew up listening to all of these DJs and I even got the chance to see some of them in person. As Riff said, these are “audio snapshots” of time. So in a way, these “snippets” of KROQ are priceless to me because it takes me back in time exactly like a picture or a home movie. I don’t give a hoot where or from who they come from I'm just immensely appreciate those who have shared them with all of us (Roqqer, Frisky99, Riff, Motnow – hope I didn’t leave anybody out).

When I was in my teens and twenties I was a roadie of sorts – most of my friends were in bands and I’m not trying to brag, but I think I have a pretty good ear for music and anyways I cut and paste some of the stuff that you guys have shared and then using my own music collection I make CDs (w/booklets that have graphics & song-lists, etc.) and give them to friends and coworkers so that they get to know my “era” cuz I really feel sad about the crap that’s out there today (Rap, Hip-Hop, etc.) which has no melody and much less any creativity. I’m sure George Harrison would be turning over in his grave if he only knew the kind of blatant rip-offs are allowed nowadays. (For those who don’t know, exBeatle Harrison once got successfully sued for his song My Sweet Lord because they said it sounded like the early 60’s song He’s So Fine.) An example, to this day I still can’t fathom how Vanilla Ice got away with Ice, Ice Baby which was an unquestionable rip off from the Bowie/Queen song Under Pressure – and that’s only one example I hear this all the time.

Anyway, I respect the painstaking work that MykeC has done in “cleaning up” these tapes (I still can’t get Bias Sound Soap to work right- in cleaning up my audio) he’s been given and I hope he changes his point of view so that others may enjoy these “audio snapshots” that mean so much to some. I mean I get such a kick out of listening to Jack Webb from Dragnet start saying “How long have you been shaving…those sideburns come off boy you understand…” as the song “Sping In Fialta by Slow Children comes on. It’s just classic.

[Frau_Blucher]

My favorite Jack Webb...

The Clash: "Should stay or should I go?"
Jack: "Goooo!!!"

[skygeex]

Well, lunatic84, I'm right witch'ya. MykeC obviously recognizes that what he has produced through his tireless effort holds value for some, and that the sweat equity he has in this collection by working to generate the digital content from the analog source means something to him, and he figures it should probably mean something to others. I never said there was anything intrinsically wrong with holding an audio collection for trade. Everyone does that, and for the most part, it works. Everyone in the trade pool ends up with what they want. And, to be accurate, MykeC said that he *prefers* to trade for more KROQ recordings...not that he will *only* trade for more KROQ. But, with all that said, what we have here is a capture of free airwave transmissions, recorded at the time by others, and digitized by another. The original source material collection actually belongs to those who made their tapes available to MykeC to duplicate them in the digital domain. MykeC's "ownership" (if there really is any to be found outside of what the owners of KROQ can legally claim) is in the mastering work. Fine. To each, his own. Credit where credit is due. But MykeC really can't expect much more than the openly-voiced gratitude of those who would wish to have a copy of it all. If there is a trade that can be done, terrific. Both parties come out of it enriched with new content. But if a suitable trade is not in the offing, but the desire to acquire remains, then I believe there really should be nothing to inhibit making a copy available, no strings attached. Like I said earlier, if there is a concern for the ongoing integrity and identity of the collection, then there can be a gentleman's agreement that the copy provided not be disseminated any further. I have no problem with the holder of the digital collection reserving the right to control the manner and/or extent of the distribution of it. I just don't believe that it should be distributed ONLY if something of value is given in return. And again, I say, that MykeC says he only *prefers* to do it that way. So I'm hopeful that I can convince him to share a copy of the collection with me for the price of a DVD-R and postage.

[skygeex]

And I might also observe that Roqqer may have had his fill of all this, as a Saturday has now come and gone without any post from him making a new KROQ segment available.

[glokstadt]

Is it possiable to make/have playlists of the songs from the tapes??? It would help... TIA! [:D]


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[roqqer]

This KROQ recording is from sometime in 1986. The cassette was unmarked so its impossible to determine the exact date.


http://www.zshare.net/audio/20566014a125acf5/