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How Far Back In The 70's Does New Wave Go?

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How Far Back In The 70's Does New Wave Go?

Postby newwavepopman » Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:51 pm

Well really when you think about it,the very first few New Wave songs were the following songs.And they had synthesizers in them,and were very much New Wave sounding.

Popcorn By Hot Butter.They used a moog synthesizer in this song,and the year was 1972.

Son Of My Father By Chicory Tip.Labeled really as a early 70's Glam band,they really sounded more like early 70's New Wave as in their music video of this song,they looked entirely like a New Wave band from the late 70's,and 80's.And in the video,they played the synthesizer just like you would see in any 80's New Wave band.The only difference is the year was 1972,and not 1981 as if this were The Human League's Dare album.


The Night Chicago Died By Paper Lace.Although labeled again as a 70's Glam band with Bubblegum tendencies,this popular #1 hit still had use of the synthesizers,going back to the year 1974.And the beat of the heavy drums had that late 70's and,80's New Wave beat and sound,adding a synthesizer to the song.These are the first songs that I think of when early New Wave first showed any signs of being a New Wave style.Can anyone else also see the very same similarites?
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Postby newwavepopman » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:03 pm

I would also like to add that in the video of "Son Of My Father" that the band Chcory Tip was also produced and written by Giorgio Moroder,the German songwrite and producer who also later did some material with New Wave artists such as Phil Oakey and Gary
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Postby Jason² » Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:09 pm

Anyone ever hear of a little known band called... KRAFTWERK?

Their self-titled debut album was released in 1970 and their breakthrough album "Autobahn" was released in 1974.
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Postby Grunch » Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:22 pm

If new wave is simply being defined as use of synthesizers, you could go back into the 60s then. I guess I have never thought of new wave based on synthesizers, bu tmore the overalll feel and sound of the artist or songs. Genesis used synth sounds but we
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Postby EchoBeachBunnyBoy » Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:13 pm

I used to believe that the use of synthesizers was what defined a band being "New Wave". But after reading various threads from this forum, I can see that it's not always true.

Sweet was a band from the 70's that used synthesizers in such classics as:
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Postby devildog » Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:22 am

Two songs from the 70's that were huge hits and used synths but you would never consider them new wave are:

Blinded By The Light-Manfred Mann (Springsteen cover) &
Dream Weaver-Gary Wright

So I would have to agree with Grunch. The use of a synth
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Postby Spaz » Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:40 am

Synthesizers do not make a band 'new wave', in my opinion. If that were the case, then the Monkees, whose Mickey Dolenz was one of the first American musicians to buy a Moog synthesizer, would fall under the catagory 'new wave'. Which they don't....

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Postby newwavepopman » Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:33 am

You all seem to fail to mention that Girgio Moroder's early existence as a New Waver.And like I said he worked with alot of New Wave artists from Phil Oakey to Blondie,to Gary Numan and more.And like I said he goes back to the early 70's,1972 to bne exact
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Postby devildog » Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:37 am

I agree, Giorgio Moroder is an early pioneer for electronic music and is sorely overlooked as a major influence for new wave.
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Postby Jimbo » Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:50 am

Why the need to expand the definition of New Wave?

I'm still waiting for the "Led Zeppelin" was really New Wave because...
1. They used a synthesizer in the song “Carousalambra”.
2. John Paul Jones was once spotted wearing a skinny tie.

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Postby newwavepopman » Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:56 am

To learn more about Giorgio Moroder and his musical roots in New Wave check out ths webpage on the man.

http://home.tiscali.se/musicworld/morod ... ropop.html

He has done alot more than just New Wave over the years,so please don't just single out
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Postby newwavepopman » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:07 am

Why Jimbo? I'll tell you why.Because you don't want to believe that New Wave music goes further back than 1976-77 and you just don't hear it.Even Moroder himself would admit that he was at one time New Wave and producing alot of New Wave artists,and this
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Postby Vince Sinister » Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:46 am

Giorgio Moroder never worked with Gary Numan.
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Postby ekahob » Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:08 am

Paper Lace New Wave? That's a stretch! Chicory Tip? Huh? In no way does having a synthesizer in a song or playing it with one finger prior to Seymour Stein's coining the term "New Wave" mean that a band was a precursor to the New Wave movement. The New
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Postby Jimbo » Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:17 am

[quote]*Originally posted by newwavepopman*
Why Jimbo? I'll tell you why. Because you don't want to believe that New Wave music goes furthe
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