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Postby schwenko » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:04 am

I'd like to make a few comments concerning this NTT and the various responses that people have posted, especially those bemoaning their "ignorance", and how regional the New Wave scene was.

First of all, kudos to 2NU and Waukena for putting this together, and Blir for hosting it. And for those whose sent in their answers (I didn't). And secondly, I only listened to LIR/DRE sporadically, until the latter half of 1989 (when I moved back to Long Island).

The songs selected do not represent the most widely played songs on LIR necessarily (not that they should have been). Think about it. LIR played a LOT of Depeche Mode, Smiths/Morrissey, New Order, Erasure, Human League. But they are not among the 25 songs listed here. Why? Probably because it would be too easy to guess them.
LIR broadcast New Wave for about 10 years (1981-1991), almost 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. So they played plenty of songs. The 25 selected represent 2NU and Waukena's choices, not the most commonly played songs.
So to summarize my point...LIR was playing a lot of songs in common with other new wave stations/programs. This NTT selection of songs is subjective, and was probably meant to stimulate some forgotten memories, relive some personal moments, and open new minds to the variety and depth of LIR's programming.
Again, no negativity is implied here; just expressing my opinion/take on the responses it elicited.
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Postby 2Nu » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:56 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by schwenko[/i]
<br>I'd like to make a few comments concerning this NTT and the various responses that people have posted, especially those bemoaning their "ignorance", and how regional the New Wave scene was.

First of all, kudos to 2NU and Waukena for putting this together, and Blir for hosting it. And for those whose sent in their answers (I didn't). And secondly, I only listened to LIR/DRE sporadically, until the latter half of 1989 (when I moved back to Long Island).

The songs selected do not represent the most widely played songs on LIR necessarily (not that they should have been). Think about it. LIR played a LOT of Depeche Mode, Smiths/Morrissey, New Order, Erasure, Human League. But they are not among the 25 songs listed here. Why? Probably because it would be too easy to guess them.
LIR broadcast New Wave for about 10 years (1981-1991), almost 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. So they played plenty of songs. The 25 selected represent 2NU and Waukena's choices, not the most commonly played songs.
So to summarize my point...LIR was playing a lot of songs in common with other new wave stations/programs. This NTT selection of songs is subjective, and was probably meant to stimulate some forgotten memories, relive some personal moments, and open new minds to the variety and depth of LIR's programming.
Again, no negativity is implied here; just expressing my opinion/take on the responses it elicited.


[/quote]A most heartfelt thanks to you schwenko, Blir, Waukena and the others who responded to this particular installment of NTT.
IMHO, it was a particularly important personal selection of music since it represented a fairly broad range of music that really caught my ear back in that VERY brief span of time when they were given airplay on WLIR only to vanish and languish in musical obscurity (save for occasional mention on NWO). These songs would NEVER have gotten airplay in any other terrestrial radio market then or since. It was both a pleasure and a priviledge to participate in this musical exercise.[;)]
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Postby fritzb » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:17 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by schwenko[/i]
<br>The songs selected do not represent the most widely played songs on LIR necessarily (not that they should have been).[/quote]I'm pretty sure the whole purpose of this game was to focus on some gems that were almost exclusive to WLIR, not the stuff that every New Wave radio station in the country played. I fully understand and appreciate that. Forgive me if I sounded like I was complaining. I'm not. A game like this turns me on to a whole world of music I never got to hear in the 80s. [8D]
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Postby SomebodySomewhere » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:52 am

I guess it might look like this was skewed in favor of Lawn Guylanders (and not that I'd include me in that group, since I wasn't born here, didn't live here in the time frame in question, and don't really listen to the radio anywhere), but if anything, I think it was skewed in favor of people who watched MTV... you know, during that time frame in the fairly-distant past when they actually showed videos. Anyone who had the channel on from '83-'88 stood a good chance of seeing the clips for "Make a Circuit with Me," "I Want You Back," "Heaven (Must Be There)," "Baby's in the Mountains," "Scatterlings of Africa," "You Got Me Going Again," "Bridges over Borders," "Birth, School, Work, Death" and a few others. I saw the clip for the Machinations song. I didn't remember the song, but I remembered the video. Go figure.
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Postby Frayo » Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:46 am

I MUST HAVE!!!

4 - New Musik - This World of Water – 75%
5 - Yellow Magic Orchestra - Tighten Up – 83%
14 - Eurogliders - Heaven (Must Be There) (A LOT!)
18 - Mental As Anything - Big Wheel – 42% (A LOT!)
19 - Machinations - You Got Me Going Again – 42%
20 - Pete Shelley - On Your Own (New York Mix) – 25%
21 - Spoons - Bridges Over Borders – 42% (A LOT!)
22 - Hubert Kah - The Picture (Bonus Track) – 50% (A LOT!)
23 - The Bolshoi - Please – 58%

I love the DX-7s all over 19 and 22.

These songs rock!

I only knew THREE of them...so i decided against a submission.

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Postby Frau_Blucher » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:01 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by fritzb[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by schwenko[/i]
<br>The songs selected do not represent the most widely played songs on LIR necessarily (not that they should have been).[/quote]I'm pretty sure the whole purpose of this game was to focus on some gems that were almost exclusive to WLIR, not the stuff that every New Wave radio station in the country played.[/quote]
You nailed it Fritz. New Order, Depeche Mode, Smiths etc weren't "signature" to anyone...everybody played. But to LIR and the ROQ, the Plimsouls, 20/20, Godfathers, Hilary, etc were indeed very "signature".
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Postby waukena » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:31 pm

ok, I think without cheating I got 66...of course 56 of those would have been my selections...oh, shit the game's over?

No, really, it was a pleasure collaborating with the boys on this...Shwenko...would you have wanted a contest consisting of:
Dexy's Midnight Runners
The Thompson Twins
Banarama
Ramones
Howard Jones

et al?

We decided that we wanted to choose certain tunes that fit very certain criteria...they had to have been heard by us for the first time on LIR/DRE
They had to have been screamers at some point so thay weren't horribly obscure...matter of fact, this was my original list...Rich P had 50 plus on his...

[i] k, dude, thses are mine...love some of em...hate some, but remember hearing them a lot...

Pole Cats - Make a Circuit with Me
Monochrome Set - Jet Set Junta
Pete Shelley - Homosapien
Clash - Rock the Casbah (ad nauseum)
Talking Heads - Psycho Killer
Husker Du - Don't Want to Know if You are Lonely
Freur - Doot Doot
Trio - Da Da Da
Visage - Fade To Grey
Alphaville - Big in Japan
OMD - Enola Gay
B Movie - Nowhere Girl
Boomtown Rats - I Don't Like Mondays
M - Pop Muzik
Tenpole Tudor -Swords of a Thousand Men
Talk Talk - It's My Life
Men At Work - Who Can It Be Now?
Altered Images I Could Be Happy
Men without Talent - Safety Dance
Blancmange - Don't Tell Me
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Two tribes
Falco - Rock Me Amadeus
King(?) - Brand New Lover
Dexy's MNR - Come on Eileen...god I hated this song
various Police, Jam, Ramones, Pretenders etc...
T. Dolby - Blinded...Submarines occasionally
Specials- Message to you Rudy

they were also big on the Furs for awhile, around Mirror Moves, when everybody else realised this band was good...[/i]

then I sent Blir a list of ridiculously obscure stuff...Dickies, The 'My Name's Eugene' song, stuff they only played at 5 in the morning that was only heard by total coke heads buying beer after hours in Wyandanch to go try and spin down a bit...or so I'm told...

I think over all this list was spot on and am proud to have helped...nice job Blir...I told Rich you wouldn't fuck it up...[:D]
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Postby schwenko » Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:01 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by waukena[/i]
<br>ok, I think without cheating I got 66...of course 56 of those would have been my selections...oh, shit the game's over?

No, really, it was a pleasure collaborating with the boys on this...Shwenko...would you have wanted a contest consisting of:
Dexy's Midnight Runners
The Thompson Twins
Banarama
Ramones
Howard Jones

et al?

We decided that we wanted to choose certain tunes that fit very certain criteria...they had to have been heard by us for the first time on LIR/DRE
They had to have been screamers at some point so thay weren't horribly obscure...matter of fact, this was my original list...Rich P had 50 plus on his...

[i] k, dude, thses are mine...love some of em...hate some, but remember hearing them a lot...

Pole Cats - Make a Circuit with Me
Monochrome Set - Jet Set Junta
Pete Shelley - Homosapien
Clash - Rock the Casbah (ad nauseum)
Talking Heads - Psycho Killer
Husker Du - Don't Want to Know if You are Lonely
Freur - Doot Doot
Trio - Da Da Da
Visage - Fade To Grey
Alphaville - Big in Japan
OMD - Enola Gay
B Movie - Nowhere Girl
Boomtown Rats - I Don't Like Mondays
M - Pop Muzik
Tenpole Tudor -Swords of a Thousand Men
Talk Talk - It's My Life
Men At Work - Who Can It Be Now?
Altered Images I Could Be Happy
Men without Talent - Safety Dance
Blancmange - Don't Tell Me
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Two tribes
Falco - Rock Me Amadeus
King(?) - Brand New Lover
Dexy's MNR - Come on Eileen...god I hated this song
various Police, Jam, Ramones, Pretenders etc...
T. Dolby - Blinded...Submarines occasionally
Specials- Message to you Rudy

they were also big on the Furs for awhile, around Mirror Moves, when everybody else realised this band was good...[/i]

then I sent Blir a list of ridiculously obscure stuff...Dickies, The 'My Name's Eugene' song, stuff they only played at 5 in the morning that was only heard by total coke heads buying beer after hours in Wyandanch to go try and spin down a bit...or so I'm told...

I think over all this list was spot on and am proud to have helped...nice job Blir...I told Rich you wouldn't fuck it up...[:D]



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Hey, I would have gotten Crazy Joe and the Variable Speed Band [:D]
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Postby 2Nu » Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:07 pm

This was my preliminary list of WLIR NTT candidates

1) Ampersand - Traction
2) Annabella Lewin - (Bow Wow Wow) - Fever*
3) Aswad - Don't Turn Around
4) Big Pig - Breakaway
5) Boom Boom Room - Love Your Face*
6) Boris Grebenshikov - Radio Silence*
7) Boxcar - Freemason (You Broke The Promise)
8) Cabaret Voltaire - Hypnotized (Dan Miller mix)
9) Cetu Javu - Situations*
10) Cocteau Twins - A Kissed Out Red Floatboat
11) Curiosity Killed The Cat - Misfit*
12) Danielle Dax - Whistling For His Love (Remix)
13) Dominatrix - The Dominatrix Sleeps Tonight (Dominant Mix)*
14) Earons - Land Of Hunger*
15) Eurogliders - Heaven (Must Be There)
16) Fuzzbox (Vindaloo Summer Special) - Rockin' with Rita*
17) Hubert Kah - The Picture (Once Bitten Soundtrack)
18) Hoodoo Gurus - I Want You Back*
19) Icehouse - No Promises*
20) In Tua Nua - All I Wanted*
21) INXS And Jimmy Barnes - Good Times
22) Julian Cope - Charlotte Anne
23) Juluka - Scatterlings of Africa
24) Ledernacken - Amok (American mix)*
25) Loose Joints - Tell You Today*
26) Machinations - You Got Me Going Again
27) Martini Ranch - World Without Walls*
28) Mental As Anything - Big Wheel
29) Michael Penn - This & That*
30) Nik Kershaw - Radio Musicola
31) Pete Shelley - On Your Own (New York Mix)
32) Peter Godwin - Baby's in the Mountains*
33) PIL - Open and Revolving*
34) Pop Will Eat Itself - Def Con One
35) Prefab Sprout - Appetite*
36) Quando Quango - Love Tempo
37) Richard Barone - River To River
38) Sarah McLachlan - Vox
39) Scarlet Fantastic - No Memory (Sensory Remix)
40) Soho - Hippie Chick
41) Spoons - Bridges Over Borders
42) Texas - I Don't Want A Lover
43) The Bolshoi - Please
44) The Danse Society - Say It Again (THE Kick Ass Danse Mix)
45) The Godfathers - Birth, School, Work, Death
46) The Essence - The Afterworld
47) The Lover Speaks - Every Lover's Sign (New York Mix)
48) The Other Ones - We Are What We Are
49) The Pursuit of Happiness - I'm An Adult Now*
50) The Quick - Bed Of Nails
51) Then Jerico - Big Area
52) The Sugarcubes - Coldsweat - Remix
53) The Venetians - So Much For Love*
54) Tonio K - I'm Supposed To Have Sex With You
55) Transvision Vamp - Tell That Girl to Shut Up
56) Two Minds Crack - Cry Cry Cry
57) Westworld - Sonic Boom Boy
58) Wet Wet Wet - Sweet Little Mystery
59) Wide Boy Awake - Slang Teacher

Ok Wayne, truth be told, you did take a gentlemanly stance and concede to let 'Slang Teacher' make the final cut despite your opinion that ST "could be one of the most puke inducing songs ever written.." [}:)][;)][:D]
Y'know, in retrospect, you were like Simon and I was like Randy and Blir was like Pau.. no,no,no.. bad comparison.. baad comparison [:I]
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Postby marie3 » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:43 am

then I sent Blir a list of ridiculously obscure stuff...Dickies, The 'My Name's Eugene' song, stuff they only played at 5 in the morning that was only heard by total coke heads buying beer after hours in Wyandanch to go try and spin down a bit...or so I'm told...




[/quote]

Waukena, that is funny as hell. I relate to your recollection of WLIR a little more then 2Nu's. ( I think we are close in age??) I do not remember Tenpole Tudor- Swords of a Thousand Men. If you have it, send it to me please, I'd like to hear it.

Thanks to Blir, Waukena and 2Nu for all the time and effort in putting this NTT together. (Glad to see 2Nu back) [:)]
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