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Postby eight6 » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:13 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by marie3[/i]
<br>I am the moderator who had contact with georgie.
I wasn't even going to post a reply here because nothing of substance transpired in our conversation other then a thank you and a few questions about the outpost posting procedures. I never once spoke a negative word about eight6 and georgie knows that.

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No problem Marie, I figured there was a fair bit of embellishment on georgie's part.


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Postby eight6 » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:23 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by ben_at_work[/i]
<br>Hey 86, I warned you about your "antics" and "hijinx".

Now you must endure the wrath of G-rock.

Hey George, Marv is giving you some good advice.[b] Eight6 isn't such a bad guy either[/b]. Although he does need to stop acting like his 12, I'll grant you that. [;)]
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The wrath of G-rock...LOL!! Sounds like a cheesy sci-fi title.

Don't go speading lies about me either Ben...I've worked far too hard honing my image for you to ruin it with your scurrilous truthmongering.

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Postby oneno » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:46 am

I think your being called out eight6 [:D]
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I jus don't know why he's gunnin for you? I thought I was pretty punkish too[V]

I'm jes sayin'
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Postby djcraig » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:00 am

Georgie I like you. Seriously. I really admire your enthusiasm.

What you seem not to understand is that the subject matter of your posts is bound to rub some people the wrong way.

I believe many of us come here to reminisce about the "good old days" when music was more exciting, because back then you never knew what new, cool sound would come out of the radio next. The snotty rebelliousness of an energetic new Punk song... the fun irreverence of New Wave... the spooky alienation of Goth influenced Rock. Soon to be legendary, Alternative Rock performers were debuting in rapid succession to thumb their nose at what had been the dominant music establishment. The ratio of creative, challenging new sounds and what I consider "bands that mattered" in the early 80's hasn't been that high since.

Conversely, you consistently post about bands like Double, Level 42, Kajagoogoo, Loverboy, etc. and wax poetically about what great musical performers Shawn Cassidy and John Travolta are. I can't remember seeing much from you about the groundswell of 80's artists responsible for originally putting Alternative Music on the map. Bands that were truly groundbreaking, dangerous, cutting edge, creative, experimental, provocative and/or influential seem to have slipped your grasp. Or at least your keyboard.

I'm sure you've seen Larry King. A guy who has made a successful career of overhyping moderately talented performers at the expense of his own credibility, then wonders why no one takes hims seriously anymore. By definition, if Larry endorses it, it must suck.

See where I'm going with this?

It's great that you are passionate about music. You just need to accept that your musical tastes are a little milder than many and be willing to accept the inevitable backlash that comes with making that a public issue. Or balance your posts with something a little more substantial as it relates to the alternative music revolution that made many of us proud to be music lovers in the 80's.




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Postby Frau_Blucher » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:46 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
<br>Conversely, you consistently post about bands like Double, Level 42, Kajagoogoo, Loverboy, etc. and wax poetically about what great musical performers Shawn Cassidy and John Travolta are. I can't remember seeing much from you about the groundswell of 80's artists responsible for originally putting Alternative Music on the map. [/quote]
Great and lucid points Craig. Kudos.

I'll say it again though, I don't think this is a real person. Seriously, Double, Loverboy, etc? It doesn' strike others here as somebody's who's lobbing stink bombs and sitting back laughing his ass off? I refuse to consider any other explanation. As Fanciz was often fond of saying, 'taste' does have absolutes and this would certainly offend those absolutes, so the only cartesian conclusion I can draw is the one I put forth. [:o)]
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Postby ben_at_work » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:27 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
<br>Conversely, you consistently post about bands like Double, Level 42, Kajagoogoo, Loverboy, etc. and wax poetically about what great musical performers Shawn Cassidy and John Travolta are. I can't remember seeing much from you about the groundswell of 80's artists responsible for originally putting Alternative Music on the map. [/quote]
Great and lucid points Craig. Kudos.

I'll say it again though, I don't think this is a real person. Seriously, Double, Loverboy, etc? It doesn' strike others here as somebody's who's lobbing stink bombs and sitting back laughing his ass off? I refuse to consider any other explanation. As Fanciz was often fond of saying, 'taste' does have absolutes and this would certainly offend those absolutes, so the only cartesian conclusion I can draw is the one I put forth. [:o)]
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I think you're right Blir. This Georgie reeks of nefarious infiltration. Very reminiscent of Sossmiester (no offense Soss).
I don't want to offend you Georgie if you are true blue. I guess we'll see where you go from here, eh?

Although in his defense, the thread on "Double" had 10 times more responses than any 3 of my threads put together [;)]
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Postby schwenko » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:54 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by ben_at_work[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
<br>Conversely, you consistently post about bands like Double, Level 42, Kajagoogoo, Loverboy, etc. and wax poetically about what great musical performers Shawn Cassidy and John Travolta are. I can't remember seeing much from you about the groundswell of 80's artists responsible for originally putting Alternative Music on the map. [/quote]
Great and lucid points Craig. Kudos.

I'll say it again though, I don't think this is a real person. Seriously, Double, Loverboy, etc? It doesn' strike others here as somebody's who's lobbing stink bombs and sitting back laughing his ass off? I refuse to consider any other explanation. As Fanciz was often fond of saying, 'taste' does have absolutes and this would certainly offend those absolutes, so the only cartesian conclusion I can draw is the one I put forth. [:o)]
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I think you're right Blir. This Georgie reeks of nefarious infiltration. Very reminiscent of Sossmiester (no offense Soss).
I don't want to offend you Georgie if you are true blue. I guess we'll see where you go from here, eh?

Although in his defense, the thread on "Double" had 10 times more responses than any 3 of my threads put together [;)]
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Postby eight6 » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:43 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by oneno[/i]

<br>I think your being called out eight6 [:D]

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I get that a lot, I must be popular.

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Postby oneno » Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:38 pm

Do you have a time limit..y'know on the growing up thing? Myself, I hate deadlines.

I'm jes sayin'
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Postby tiger_mn » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:03 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
No problem Marie, I figured there was a fair bit of embellishment on georgie's part.
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The embellishment was pegging you're age at 12. I would have put it at 9 - tops.
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Postby hutter » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:17 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by tiger_mn[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
No problem Marie, I figured there was a fair bit of embellishment on georgie's part.
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The embellishment was pegging you're age at 12. I would have put it at 9 - tops.


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Postby eight6 » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:29 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by tiger_mn[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
No problem Marie, I figured there was a fair bit of embellishment on georgie's part.
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The embellishment was pegging you're age at 12. I would have put it at 9 - tops.


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I guess you'd call that "New wave" fan-ning of the flames...and as far as my maturitiy level goes, I'm right on that 12 mark I'll have you know.

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Postby tiger_mn » Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:06 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
Bully!

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Takes one to know one. [:o)]

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Postby georgie rockwood » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:31 am

<br>Georgie I like you. Seriously. I really admire your enthusiasm.

What you seem not to understand is that the subject matter of your posts is bound to rub some people the wrong way.

I believe many of us come here to reminisce about the "good old days" when music was more exciting, because back then you never knew what new, cool sound would come out of the radio next. The snotty rebelliousness of an energetic new Punk song... the fun irreverence of New Wave... the spooky alienation of Goth influenced Rock. Soon to be legendary, Alternative Rock performers were debuting in rapid succession to thumb their nose at what had been the dominant music establishment. The ratio of creative, challenging new sounds and what I consider "bands that mattered" in the early 80's hasn't been that high since.

Conversely, you consistently post about bands like Double, Level 42, Kajagoogoo, Loverboy, etc. and wax poetically about what great musical performers Shawn Cassidy and John Travolta are. I can't remember seeing much from you about the groundswell of 80's artists responsible for originally putting Alternative Music on the map. Bands that were truly groundbreaking, dangerous, cutting edge, creative, experimental, provocative and/or influential seem to have slipped your grasp. Or at least your keyboard.

I'm sure you've seen Larry King. A guy who has made a successful career of overhyping moderately talented performers at the expense of his own credibility, then wonders why no one takes hims seriously anymore. By definition, if Larry endorses it, it must suck.

See where I'm going with this?

It's great that you are passionate about music. You just need to accept that your musical tastes are a little milder than many and be willing to accept the inevitable backlash that comes with making that a public issue. Or balance your posts with something a little more substantial as it relates to the alternative music revolution that made many of us proud to be music lovers in the 80's.

i like you too djcraig and i can appreciate your opinion etc....but remember music is a taste.who can say what new wave/power pop/new romantic/punk is ???? if maroon 5 came out in 1983 would they be new wave?? who knows??? if nirvana came out in 1976,would they be punk?? who knows???? let's remember that music is a personal taste & opinion,etc....who can say what artists/bands were groundbreaking and put new wave on the map,cause a band that you like or think was groundbreaking i may not think so and the next person may not think your bands or the bands i like were groundbreaking.do you see what i mean???? i've been a professional musician for 27+ years now & the artists that influenced me,my songwriting,my musicianship etc....are different than the guys i played with & vice versa.thats what makes music unique.i was also an A&R guy for many years too in the early to late 80's for a couple of major labels in europe & here in the states and i can tell you that what might sell in europe may not sell here and vice versa. we were responsible in breaking american new wave artists in europe but it was very very difficult because of musical opinion.. etc...just like what we're talkin about.it was also very difficult for us to break european/british artists in america for the same reasons.
djcraig,i've gotton loads of awesome emails thanking me for all my posts & topics etc.....there's alot of people on this site who also appreciates music for what it us......MUSIC!!!!!!!
like i said,,,just because shaun cassidy puts out a new wave album does that mean pet shop boys are better???? of course not!!! its personal opinion and one's personal taste etc......
lets have fun while we're here...............


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Postby djcraig » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:23 am

Georgie,

If you want to cruise around on a moped and pretend it's a Harley that's your business. But when you pull up next to a biker and start boasting to him about your "hog", don't be surprised if he gives you the finger and then leaves you in a cloud of dust.

There are hundreds of bands you could post about here on <big>[b]New Wave Outpost</big>[/b] that no one would argue with. For whatever reason, you choose to post about bands that, even by loose interpretation, don't fit the definition. Then you act in stunned disbelief when people react negatively, as so many have.

Ketchup is not a vegetable and no matter how hard you want to believe it, Loverboy, Shaun Cassidy and Captain and Tenille (or whoever you're probably going to post about next) will never be New Wave.

If you want to fart in church, go ahead. Just don't try to covince those around you that the pungent aroma they are smelling is a bouquet of roses.

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