30th Anniversary "Four From Toyah" E.P.

[InvisibleMan]

[quote][i]Originally posted by toyah[/i]
<br>w do you think Lady GaGa would have hit the heights in the era of music press twats?
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I think she would...if anything, Gaga would have fit more with 80's culture of Boy George, Visage, Cindy Lauper, Dead of Alive etc...

come on people, why can't we all just listen to Roxette and be friends!? [;)]

[i_like_lectric_motors]

[quote][i]Originally posted by InvisibleMan[/i]


come on people, why can't we all just listen to Roxette and be friends!? [;)]
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One word - Standards.

[toyah]

the reign of the 'music press twats' was the 60s and 70s;
they came undone by the 1980s, for one reason;
MTV..prior to that, the 'coolness' factor affected folks in America,in fact when the first recordings of Duran Duran,Adam & the Ants, Billy Idol,etc were released in America, they bombed, as FM rock radio and Rolling Stone didn't want to know, and AM Top 40 was all about Air Supply, Olivia Newton John and "Islands In The Stream";
MTV changed all that, the 'music press' stranglehold came undone;
sadly for the folks in england, the UK twats continued to wield power via NME, Melody Maker, etc, but even so, things changed there as well eventually..
but GaGa would have been given the heave ho in the circumstances prior to the MTV 80's;
and a dead on bore like Elvis Costello(WHO?) wouldn't have even got the 15 minutes that he got here; he never really had a 'hit' here,per se,and most folks who aren't on this message board wouldn't have clue who he was(lucky them)

[coop41]

[quote][i]Originally posted by toyah[/i]
<br>and a dead on bore like Elvis Costello(WHO?) wouldn't have even got the 15 minutes that he got here; he never really had a 'hit' here,per se,and most folks who aren't on this message board wouldn't have clue who he was(lucky them)
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wow, speaking of no clue....you might want to brush up a little. I'm not even a Costello fan but don't embarrass yourself even more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Costello

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/elvis-co ... /biography

[toyah]

I'm well aware of his history;
nerd heaven; complete construct of 'music press twats' elevating one of their own;
he, U2 and Annie Lennox are three good reasons why the young folks fled to hip hop and r&b....he sucks...

[djcraig]

[quote][i]Originally posted by toyah[/i]
<br>I'm well aware of his history;
nerd heaven; complete construct of 'music press twats' elevating one of their own;
he, U2 and Annie Lennox are three good reasons why the young folks fled to hip hop and r&b....he sucks...
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I'm surprised Toyah couldn't keep them from abandoning ship. Oh well, don't let the haters get you down.

If you and I (and the scads of other Toyah fans around here) continue to work tirelessly and relentessly posting Toyah propaganda, I'm convinced we will eventually win over the minds of the thoughtless masses.

Just don't give up or get discouraged. We can DO this!!! Once we make the initial breakthrough, getting them to finally see the light on your other points should be easy.

As one of Toyah's main influences, Helen Reddy, once sang, "you and me against the world, it's you and me against the world..."

Onward, to victory!

I would like to post the following video as both an inspiration to you and a testament to those who would oppose us. Let this song lift your heart and remind you that as long as I am here, you are never alone in your fight!

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfMpVHXSOe4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


<a href="http://www.djcraig.net/los_angeles_dj">DJ Craig</a>

[eight6]

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
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I could [i]really[/i] use one of these meters today...too much Monday morning whining. Your life sucks, I get it, now fuck off already.

I'm not sure if recommending a Toyah tune or two would lift their spirits, or push them over the edge. Not that I care either way, mind you...

Trying to diminish Costello's considerable accomplishments by comparing him to the likes of a Toyah is without a doubt the best laugh I've had this year; it even tops this:

"[i]I look forward to the 25th Anniversary "Toyah Dropped From Label" worldwide tour.[/i]" - SomebodySomewhere

[SomebodySomewhere]

Indeed, there is no topping the bold claim that Costello "never really had a 'hit' here." Like hitting the Top 40 of the Hot 100 twice doesn't qualify as having had hits.

Here, here's my bold claim: Toyah never really had a "song" with a melody.

[ghosty]

As an aside, I believe "Pump It Up" is played at every single sporting event in America, making that particular Elvis Costello track as recognizable and ubiquitous as Queen's "We Will Rock You".

[toyah]

except that 99% of the people in the stadium have no idea who it's by, and could care less...
can we say GARY GLITTER?(who I place miles above Costello,by the way...)

[i_like_lectric_motors]

[quote][i]Originally posted by toyah[/i]

can we say GARY GLITTER?(who I place miles above Costello,by the way...)
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Of course you would ... he's a deviant.

[Frank_Chickens]

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by toyah[/i]

can we say GARY GLITTER?(who I place miles above Costello,by the way...)
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Of course you would ... he's a deviant.
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And just think, every time that song is played at sports stadia it pays for his next sex holiday to a third world country.

[coop41]

[quote][i]Originally posted by toyah[/i]
<br>except that 99% of the people in the stadium have no idea who it's by, and could care less...
can we say GARY GLITTER?(who I place miles above Costello,by the way...)
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Gary Glitter, he's the pedophile, right?

[ghosty]

[quote][i]Originally posted by toyah[/i]
<br>except that 99% of the people in the stadium have no idea who it's by, and could care less...
can we say GARY GLITTER?(who I place miles above Costello,by the way...)
[/quote]

Just know that whatever your issues are with Elvis Costello and what rock journalists in the late 70's may or may not have done is irrelevant in this day and age. Elvis Costello has been moderately successful for decades. Whether Elvis Costello made it because some guy at Rolling Stone pushed his records or because he had a few genuinely catchy singles from 1978 to about 1988 is up for debate but in the end, who really cares? Nowadays sites and blogs like Pitchfork and BrooklynVegan make or breaks bands (not that there's much headway to be gained by it).

Rolling Stone turned into People magazine back in the 80's. Considering how nauseating they were when they started in '67 (they appealed to the "Hey man, Bob Dylan is gonna storm the White House" idiocy of the time) it got neither better or worse.

[eight6]

[quote][i]Originally posted by toyah[/i]

<br>except that 99% of the people in the stadium have no idea who it's by, and could care less...

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Still 1% more than if a Toyah-tune was played...