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30th Anniversary "Four From Toyah" E.P.

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Postby Frank_Chickens » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:58 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by toyah[/i]
<br>as we can see, 'It's A Mystery" was #2 on "Top Of The Pops" in the week of your screen capture from the UK;
and it wasn't payola, cos the indie Safari label obviously wasn't rolling in the big bucks(although the sucess of this single and the platinum UK Anthem album put some change in the purse);
somebody liked it, and on her home turf, many people still do, and so do I...
and if you're so 'up' on people you know from radio and the top of the charts, shouldn't you be on a message board for Madonna or Michael Jackson?
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Just to correct you, the two signifies that it was being shown on Top of the Pops 2, a BBC music show that shows selected performances of acts that have appeared on the show over the years and does not signify chart position. I should of thought a big Toyah fan would have known that.

As for your other point, never really been heavily into chart music (although I've got my faves), recently I've been listening to library synth music, some of the tracks have been heard more people over a longer period of time in the UK that Toyah ever has.
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Postby eight6 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:56 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by idlehands[/i]
<br>[quote]Originally posted by toyah
[br]http://www.toyah.net/fft30.html
[/quote]

I amazed so many people here dislike Toyah. Tracks like "Bird In Flight", "Brave New World", "Dawn Chorus", "The Vow", to name just a few, are so[b] moving[/b].

[/quote]

You left out the word "bowel" in front of moving.
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Postby Doctor Doctor » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:01 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by toyah[/i]
at the time the album "Anthem" had gone UK platinum and stayed near the top of the UK chart for a year
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This is rather BS really.
The album charted at #3 may 30...peaked at #2 a week later and imediately started to plummet. By August it was barly holding onto a top twenty position...18 is not top of the UK charts, top 10 is...of which she managed 4 weeks...not "a year" as you put it.

Its not an impressive statistic for a UK album.






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Postby toyah » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:31 am

Toyah MANIA is sweeping NWO! ..love it...
(should have said stayed at the top of the 'indie' chart for a year, and the performance on the establishment chart ,for a little label like Safari, is quite impressive indeed, as well as delivering three consecutive top ten chart singles in that period and winning the 'brit' award that year over annie lennox, debbie harry, etc...
and U2 paid particular attention to the follow up top ten album, "The Changeling"(1982) as they borrowed the opening of Toyah's Top Twenty single "Brave New World", with Steve Lilywhite at the helm,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g36p2IdEtqQ
for their own recording a year or two later, "Bullet The Blue Sky", with Steve Lilywhite at the helm..
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Postby djcraig » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:13 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by idlehands[/i]
<br>[quote]Originally posted by toyah
[br]http://www.toyah.net/fft30.html
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I amazed so many people here dislike Toyah. Tracks like "Bird In Flight", "Brave New World", "Dawn Chorus", "The Vow", to name just a few, are so moving.
Oh well, to each his own. Guess I'm not sitting with the cool kids in the lunchroom.
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I quite agree. It's like Castor Oil. I used to have no opinion on it. But after I had it rammed down my throat regularly by someone who was "doing me a favor", I began to love it.





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Postby toyah » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:14 am

used to have no opinion on it. But after I had it rammed down my throat regularly by someone who was "doing me a favor", I began to love it.

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are we still talking bout castor oil, or Linda Lovelace "Stockholm Syndrome"?
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Postby SomebodySomewhere » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:43 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
I've spent a while watching the collection of Toyah videos available on Youtube. First, let me say, I'll need therapy: a lot of therapy. Secondly, every song sucks, WTF!!! She can't dance, although she can squirm like a worm on a hook. Her singing is finger nails on a chalkboard irritating, and the songs seem totally devoid of any sign of a hook, except of course the one Toyah is squirming on.

This one is excruciatingly bad.[/quote]


Agreed that her/their music is perfectly dreadful, but nothing -- I repeat -- nothing will ever top "Thunder in the Mountains" in the "How Did This Even Get Released, Let Alone Become a Top 5 U.K. Hit?" department. The sad thing is, they actually had her working with pro songwriters for her 1985 album -- and the singles STILL sucked.

Why would anyone listen to this crap when Siouxsie and the Banshees did it all so much better (and with good songs to boot)?
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Postby eight6 » Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:23 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
I've spent a while watching the collection of Toyah videos available on Youtube. First, let me say, I'll need therapy: a lot of therapy. Secondly, every song sucks, WTF!!! She can't dance, although she can squirm like a worm on a hook. Her singing is finger nails on a chalkboard irritating, and the songs seem totally devoid of any sign of a hook, except of course the one Toyah is squirming on.

This one is excruciatingly bad.[/quote]


Agreed that her/their music is perfectly dreadful, but nothing -- I repeat -- nothing will ever top "Thunder in the Mountains" in the "How Did This Even Get Released, Let Alone Become a Top 5 U.K. Hit?" department. The sad thing is, they actually had her working with pro songwriters for her 1985 album -- and the singles STILL sucked.

Why would anyone listen to this crap when Siouxsie and the Banshees did it all so much better (and with good songs to boot)?
[/quote]



You know, I had listened to quite a few of those abominations, but couldn't remember what "Thunder In The Mountains" sounded like,(no doubt a big plus for me) so I took the bait and went back to listen again. I owe you a swift kick to the nuts for that...

Again, the horse was the star performer in the video, but like you I'm puzzled that with the incredible wealth of talent that flowed from the U.K. during that period, why anyone could possibly see talent in Toyah. Couldn't sing, couldn't dance...simply a passable piece of eye candy for someone at Safari to plow.

We may need to run a poll to establish which song is worse; "It's a Mystery" or "Thunder In The Mountains".


I keep trying to be fair, so I watched a couple of additional videos and came across this:

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/S-npWE3OJUQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

If this is the result of years of honing one's craft, there wasn't much to hone in the first place, which was my original supposition.

Shit video: looks like an evening at a Chinese food restaurant gone awry.
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Postby tiger_mn » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:31 am

@eight6: First, let me say, I'll need therapy: a lot of therapy.

To be fair, you needed that before this poorly executed misinformation campaign began.


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You can't argue with Toyah's incredible chart success or her immeasurable longevity.
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Postby eight6 » Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:56 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by tiger_mn[/i]
<br>@eight6: First, let me say, I'll need therapy: a lot of therapy.

To be fair, you needed that before this poorly executed misinformation campaign began.


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Guilty as charged.
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Postby djcraig » Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:56 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
I've spent a while watching the collection of Toyah videos available on Youtube. First, let me say, I'll need therapy: a lot of therapy. Secondly, every song sucks, WTF!!! She can't dance, although she can squirm like a worm on a hook. Her singing is finger nails on a chalkboard irritating, and the songs seem totally devoid of any sign of a hook, except of course the one Toyah is squirming on.

This one is excruciatingly bad.[/quote]


Agreed that her/their music is perfectly dreadful, but nothing -- I repeat -- nothing will ever top "Thunder in the Mountains" in the "How Did This Even Get Released, Let Alone Become a Top 5 U.K. Hit?" department. The sad thing is, they actually had her working with pro songwriters for her 1985 album -- and the singles STILL sucked.

Why would anyone listen to this crap when Siouxsie and the Banshees did it all so much better (and with good songs to boot)?
[/quote]



You know, I had listened to quite a few of those abominations, but couldn't remember what "Thunder In The Mountains" sounded like,(no doubt a big plus for me) so I took the bait and went back to listen again. I owe you a swift kick to the nuts for that...

Again, the horse was the star performer in the video, but like you I'm puzzled that with the incredible wealth of talent that flowed from the U.K. during that period, why anyone could possibly see talent in Toyah. Couldn't sing, couldn't dance...simply a passable piece of eye candy for someone at Safari to plow.

We may need to run a poll to establish which song is worse; "It's a Mystery" or "Thunder In The Mountains".


I keep trying to be fair, so I watched a couple of additional videos and came across this:



If this is the result of years of honing one's craft, there wasn't much to hone in the first place, which was my original supposition.

Shit video: looks like an evening at a Chinese food restaurant gone awry.
[/quote]Thanks for the ear rape, Eight Six. I have yet to make it all the way through a Toyah video without hitting the stop button. You'd think that, as long as she's been around, the sheer odds would dictate that she'd have at least ONE listenable song by now. Or at least one that didn't completely suck.

PS The above statement in no way changes my status as the #2 Toyah fan on NWO.





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