classical music, as a genre

[ninjastyle]

Recently I noticed a classical music website.

http://www.freeclassicalmusic.net

I wonder, if, in this time of electronic music, flashy music shows, and newfangled instruments --
I wonder if the genius inherent in the work of Beethoven and Chopin is still important. That is, if it is still able to be appreciated.

[ekahob]

That cool new band Yellowcard has a violin player in the band. He likes to body surf the crowd, Stradivarius in hand. Classical music is very punk these days. No?! O.K. Forget it.

[2Nu]

Yo! Yo! Yo! Mahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! WORD..[;)] (oops! wrong website![:I])

[edisonoside]

N.I.N.JASTYLE???

[ExRat]

At least it's clever spam......

[xtc-1957]

[quote][i]Originally posted by kimiiii[/i]
<br>ExRat said:
Spam
Which makes me think of:
Meat
then:
Hot Dog
then:
Pig
then:
Fat
then:
Junk Food
then:
Candy
then:
Sugar
then:
The Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies!!!!

Yes! This New Wave Music board CAN be connected, by only 9 degrees of separation, to Classical Music!!!!
[/quote]

kimiiii, you should be making tons o' cash writing for sitcoms..your wit reminds me of the writers on Seinfeld or M*A*S*H*. too funny. are you a writer?

[hutter]

[quote]Originally posted by ninjastyle
[br]Recently I noticed a classical music website.

http://www.freeclassicalmusic.net

I wonder, if, in this time of electronic music, flashy music shows, and newfangled instruments --
I wonder if the genius inherent in the work of Beethoven and Chopin is still important. That is, if it is still able to be appreciated.
[/quote]Yeah, it's still important. More folks should listen to it. My personal fave: Wagner. Yep, my musical taste is all over the place. Proud of it.

[kola]

if classical music is so good and still relevant etc... then why do i have to wade through tons of it in thrift shops, to get to an obscure new wave 7" that wil bring hours of listening pleasure, long after all that screechy old bollocks has become landfill?

[ghosty]

[quote][i]Originally posted by kola[/i]
<br>if classical music is so good and still relevant etc... then why do i have to wade through tons of it in thrift shops, to get to an obscure new wave 7" that wil bring hours of listening pleasure, long after all that screechy old bollocks has become landfill?
[/quote]

Ever take a look at the $4.99 discount rack of Tower Records? "Berlin Hits", "Ramones Hits","Talk Talk Hits", "The Fixx Hits", "Spandau Ballet Hits", "The Motels Hits", "Kajagoogoo Hits", "New Wave Hits Of The 80's" etc.

[st arry]

It's just a snobbery of chronology that makes some people dismiss things from the past. The best of our ancestors in whatever field is always relevant to us because it all springs from the same basic human emotions and thoughts. The only difference is one of surface effect - the instruments used, the form employed. The best music now or then still uses harmony, rhythm and melody in an enjoyable and interesting way. So just like the best music from various areas of the world today has alot more in common than some want to think so I think the past in still relevant. The old masters gave us the triumph of the western harmonic scale and all the possiblities that has and still has. All the melodic variations and harmonic possibilities. So JS Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Haydn and all the others still have a strong part to play in anyone wanting to know how to construct a melody, use harmonies to structure a piece and rhythm to give it energy and direction. Music ends up being all one entitity - or at least intelligent music does.

[hutter]

If the young whippersnappers who dismiss classical music would at least watch Amadeus, maybe they'll at least respect classical music. Doubt it, tho.

[bpdp3]

I respect classical, and enjoy listening to much of it, and like to read about the composers. But I've always had one underlying issue with classical.....

We are unable to hear the 'definitive' version of it. There was no recording equipment in Mozart's time, so we never get to hear HIS version of it.

All other musical genres we're supposed to appreciate (jazz, blues, the Beatles, whatever) we can hear the composer's original recordings. We can't with Beethoven, etc. I know some will say that Rubinoff is the best recorded Chopin, and they may be right, but it's not Chopin playing, you know what I mean?

It sounds odd, but this is what keeps me from going headfirst into classical.

[Bitter Almonds]

Erik Satie = teh win[8D]

[st arry]

[quote][i]Originally posted by bpdp3[/i]
<br>But I've always had one underlying issue with classical.....

We are unable to hear the 'definitive' version of it. There was no recording equipment in Mozart's time, so we never get to hear HIS version of it.
[/quote]

The basic skeleton of the music (the music on the page) is strong in the best of it, and that's the main thing in any kind of music. Also the skin and clothes of the music (the arrangement) is already fully written out. There's some room for interpretation but they put precise markings down for how certain notes should be played and with what kind of feeling. So it's not that difficult to work out how they wanted something played. There's alot of razzamatazz now about this or that performer's interpretation, but that's more because of the lack of good new music and the need as a result to concentrate on the performer. It's easier to market a living performer than a dead composer.

Also pop versions of classical music can show that in the end good music is good music, whether dressed up in classical style or in a newer style. The basic bones are good so it can be transformed and still be successful. For instance Nutrocker, Also Sprach Zarathustra (Deodato) etc.

[Bitter Almonds]

I remember going to the symphony as a kid and wanting to be a conductor![:D]